Max bonus to skills from equipment is not always = max skill lvl +4

[Mjoll]

I have a Warden char and i was fooling around with my skill points at a Mystic NPC when i noticed that not all skills get a +4 max bonus from equipment added to the max skill level.

I have 3 skills that get +5 max bonus from equipment (not that i mind this ):

Battle Awareness - 15/10 should be 14/10
Exploit Weakness - 15/10 should be 14/10
Art of the Hunt - 15/10 should be 14/10

And i have 2 skills that get only +2 max bonus from equipment (this i mind):

Adrenaline - 12/10 should be 14/10
Focus - 8/6 should be 10/6

Is this normal or it's a bug? And if it's normal is there a logical explanation for it?

[Killa John]

That's pretty strange, I'd say it's a bug as I can see no logical explanation for it

[Blaze]

As far as I know pets can get +5 to skill and all others should get only a bonus of +4 to the skill.

[frankenparrot]

Finally, a certain something that is new. I have no idea how you, OP, got plus more than 4 skills. That is something truelly interesting. As for pets, I am not so sure. My Core Dweller is plodding along maxed out. I would very much like to give him one extra point though!

[MiloDrama]

Well, Mjoll, I understand the +2skills from +4 but not the +5skills. Are you sure you don't have another +1skill hidden somewhere on your stuff ?

For the +2skills cap, as seen in the Spoilers/Knowledge post :

How high it[skill level] can be raised depends on the skill. Some can go 4 over their maximum level, some 5, some only 2 points.

[Mjoll]

I have checked the rest of the masteries and i got these results. I did the testing using equipment that adds a total of +6 to all skills.

Defense (+1 -4 = -3) the most disadvantaged mastery
Adrenaline 12/10
Battle Awareness 15/10
Focus 8/6

Earth (+1)
Summon Core Dweller 20/15

Hunting (+2)
Art of the Hunt 15/10
Exploit Weakness 15/10

Nature (+6 -2 = +4) the most advantaged mastery
Briar Ward 20/15
Call of the Wild 20/15
Dissemination 15/10
Maul 15/10
Sanctuary 10/8
Survival Instinct 20/15
Sylvan Nymph 20/15

Rogue (+3)
Lay Trap 20/15
Shrapnel 15/10
Throwing Knife 15/10

Spirit (+3)
Cascade 15/10
Summon Liche King 20/15
Summon Outsider 20/15

Storm (+1)
Summon Wisp 20/15

Warfare (+2 -2 = 0)
Ancestral Horn 20/15
Battle Standard 12/10
War Horn 15/10

I see 2 patterns here, summoning skills and skills that have an effect radius are an exception from the "+4 is the max skill bonus from equipment" rule. And then there are skills that dont follow those patterns.

But the question is WHY? Why the extra +1 to some skills and the -2 to other skills? Will they be underpowered/overpowered without +1/-2 to them?

[MiloDrama]

In fact, skills have their own "max level". +4 is not the max skill bonus for every skills.
For example, Battle Standard is max at 12/10 (+2).
See there http://www.titanquest.net/spoilers/1...html#post50365


Well, I thought you had +4skills only but in fact, you have +6. So no problem.

[Mjoll]

In fact, skills have their own "max level". +4 is not the max skill bonus for every skills.

Ok we have established that skills have different max level caps. So we get back to ... why? What is the mysterious reason behind these different max level caps?

Well, I thought you had +4skills only but in fact, you have +6. So no problem.

Ah but there is a problem. I have Defense as a mastery and because of the illogical max level cap i'm losing 2 points of Adrenaline and 2 points of Focus.

The game has 160 skills and 156 of them have +4 or even +5 max level caps. Only 4 skills (2.5%) have +2 max level cap. It makes no sense.

[MiloDrama]

The max level seems to have a field in the database so it's not a question for the dev, but a question for the designers.

[Mjoll]

Bump.

Could a dev please explain why a few skills get different bonuses from equipment?