Warden questions

[maxwolfie]

Hey, ok basically I dont know what skills are good

Here are two calcs that are totally different

http://www.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.a...-1-6-6-1-1-6-0

http://www.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.a...8-6-6-12-8-6-0

Which one is better and why?

And also regarding STR and DEX, what should my bases be? thanks!

[Felexitus]

str should always be the skill you put your leftovers in.
the last spear needs 377 dex.

id say your fist build is better because it has the right amount of skill points. titancalc gives you the skillpoints the game gives you too, if you completed each and every quest. also it has study prey wich is just awesome and should pretty much be the first 8 points everytime you open titancalc and select a hunter combination.

id drop shield charge to 1, take down to 1 batter to 1 and herbal remedy to 1 in your build. these skills allow you to push the adrenal skills. i dont have much experience with shield charge but i do have a lot of experience with take down. the problem is that bosses are immune to the life reduction. that leaves trash mobs being susceptible to take down, but they die very quickly anyway.

[dangermeister]

I would say that build 2 is way better.

This to change:
-Remove all points on diable cuz it dont work with spears, insted move them to armour handling.
-I think that u should remove all points exept 1 on take down and herbal remedy and put the rest on study prey wich is a hunter best skill i think. Also cap Call of the hunt and its uppgrade.
-Caping batter and rend armour isnt that inportant save that untill u are higher lvl, insted spend the points u were planing on putting in batter and its uppgrade on the once i mentioned above.

When it comes to str and dex, the dex should alwais be a bit hogher then the str because a defender is a more defensive class, duh. But they should still be pretty equal cuz u need to be able to use good equipment.

Good luck, and dont be affraid to experiment cuz u can always recap your skills..

[Felexitus]

since when is dex a defensive solution? DA only works when its really really high, that might happen with a pure dex warden apart from that str simply gives better damage and after all even if youre a defensive class you might want to kill stuff

[maxwolfie]

Yeah, I think I'll just put enough dex in to use my equip, and the rest will be spent on str

[maxwolfie]

So what about the builds? I have two people saying different things here and I have no idea, or can someone post up another one if they both need work??

[ArcaneX]

As i played my paladin i found out that ShieldCharge is absolutly useles Compared to Better. Charge doesnt give + Shield dmge it only gives yu 31-102 dmg. Its already was useles when i played in Egypt Epic. So take all pnts from it. I think Focus 1 is enough. As for Raly tree I have my Raly on 1 and Inspiration on 3 and its realy going good. Colusus is a good skill but 1 is enough. Also in all yur bilds yu skip Call of The Hunt > Exploit Weakness thats a nn for an any Hunter. So max it it will save yur *** in many boss fights. Well about take down ... didnt liked hat skill why to hit one mob when yu can hit 3 in a row + Slowing them fr 50 % with Better.

[Felexitus]

1 point in shield charge is alright to enable disruption wich is great.

the damage on the shield charge is affected by any +% damage modifiers you have and str, thats huge.
i can understand not using call of the hunt as a warden. this skill isnt active much and it mainly boosts attack speed and exploit weakness boosts pierce damage and its own bleed. the bleed is neglectible later. leaving attack speed and pierce. both isnt that uberly impressive for a warden id say

[Xaece]

As i played my paladin i found out that ShieldCharge is absolutly useles Compared to Better. Charge doesnt give + Shield dmge it only gives yu 31-102 dmg.

You lack understanding of how Shield Charge works.

It does too deal Weapon and Shield Damage. The 31-102 damage can be effected by ALL physical damage mods as well.

http://www.titanquest.net/40471-post13.html

Don't feel like doing the math all over on Shield Charge, so just clicky that link where I did it the first time.

i can understand not using call of the hunt as a warden. this skill isnt active much and it mainly boosts attack speed and exploit weakness boosts pierce damage and its own bleed. the bleed is neglectible later. leaving attack speed and pierce. both isnt that uberly impressive for a warden id say

Are we using the same skill here? My Warden has Call of the Hunt permanent without any -Recharge items. That huge boost to my spears Pierce damage, and Attack speed is incredible.

[Felexitus]

the skill has a 50s duration at max lvl and like a 3 minute recast so honestly i dont think were talking about the same skill O.o