meele sorcerer

[sugar kane]

I want to try str/dex meele sorcerer with focus on traps , knives for crowd control and from storm mastery using just squall for debuffing , SB/SS for high energy bosses , storm surge and thunderball/CB for extra stuning.I know traps will get me through normal and epic difficulty but what about legendary?Is this good idea or I shoul try something else?

[Medea Fleecestealer]

I've never taken my Sorcerer right through the game; the new one is only around L6 at the moment. Still it's worth a try. If you can find some -% recharge to help with the knives spamming then combined with the traps and squall it could be quite devastating.

[sugar kane]

If i want knives spamming then i need elemental damage cold or lightning and investing my attribute points in int.My idea is strenght based build , fighting spear/shield sorcerer with traps and using magic tricks from storm for stunning(thunderball/CB),slowing and debuffing.I could go int/dex and in str only to equip spear but then i have another problem end game shields require 400+ str.

[Medea Fleecestealer]

Well, knives recharge fairly quickly so it shouldn't be a problem if you're hitting them with squall and traps as well. With Rapid Construction maxed you can toss out traps almost continuously if need be. If you can find leg and arm gear "... of the Pegasus" and "... of the Gryphon" they can add elemental damage, but I'm not sure how much they'd help if you're going str/dex route as I'm not that knowledgeable about the mechanics of the game. It may be they need intel as well.

[Nightmare14]

if you want stuning you could always get relics/ artifacts with completion bonus of 5% chance to stun for x seconds such as herkales might. using 2 of them with knives will get stuniing effects often so that you could choose anothing mastery like warfare/hunting/dream etc.

[sugar kane]

already have assasin and brigand , really want to try sorcerer , seems like a very fun build with lot of active skills from both masteries

[Irma2]

Melee Str-based Sorc is tough. You have three major problems to contend with:

1) Little by way of AoE damage. Lethal Strike is your big-hitting skill but it's single target only, as is your LMB Calculated Strike. You will get AoE from Squall, Knives, Storm Surge and Traps but it's all bitty stuff. Without Int, Squall and Storm Surge don't do that much damage. Without flat off-hand sources of damage, Knives are similar. And Traps kill quite slowly in Legendary as well. So you will get a little bit of help from your skills but tough mobs remain a problem.

2) Neither mastery adds OA or DA, Storm adds no Str, you don't get anything by way of dodge or shield skills, Obscured Visibility is your only source of damage mitigation, and both Storm and Rogue are light on HP allocation. So most of your gear has to go into filling these needs. The result is a toon with not much Health who must both be equipped very well and played very carefully. It's not a tank by any means.

3) Rogue wants piercing but neither Rogue nor Storm adds a good debuff. Squall is decent but, as it's %-based, it can never send enemy pierce resistance into the negatives. It can only make a positive resistance weaker, it can never nullify it entirely. You can get there with MKT, Shen-Nong's and the Study Prey proc on Mbuti's Advocate. But that again places very high demands on suitable gear, along with finding an Mbuti's with two good affixes. You could use an Mbuti's just when casting Squall or Knives, and then switch to your primary spear once the monsters are debuffed. But it's not ideal.

On the plus side, you do get excellent crowd control. Squall deals with all ranged foes, Knives with Mandrake/Nightshade will cause many enemies to be confused or fumble their attacks, and Traps give you a means to distract monsters, letting you get in the first hit(s) free. But it's still neither a hardy nor a hard-hitting toon. Contrary to popular belief, Rogue is not a high-damage mastery. It is when you pair it with Hunting, but it's Hunting that's bringing the best out of Lethal Strike, doubling its impact due to Study Prey.

Anyway, good luck with it. Sounds like an interesting toon.

[sugar kane]

thanks for replies , i know this is very challenging build but on the other side very fun , so i´m starting to play.
I hope this toon will be able to finish game.

[Medea Fleecestealer]

Good luck. Let us know how it's going.

[sugar kane]

Ok , I´ll post my progress.

Decided to start with rogue cause this is almost pure rogue build , using storm just for stunning , slowing , to gain some advantage to eliminate main threat in group with LS (like formicid captains , grandmaster machae archers , tigerman warlords etc.) soon as possible , so i can deal with trash mobs much easier.

Leave Helos at lvl4 , spent most of my skill poinst in mastery except one point in EW , nigtshade , blade honing and calculated strike.Way to Sparta was easy , done all side quest and clear everything on my way quite easy like I expected.
Fight against Nessus wasn´t too long or difficult .Spend some attribute points to equip some better gear and continue forward.

By the time i get to Megara i was lvl12 , and LS was available to use against Polyphemus , hit him with LS and run ,avoid his attacks , wait for LS to recharge , hit him again and big one-eyed guy fell down.

Tonight I will finish rest of act1 , sorry for my bad english , hope you can understand.