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Savrill
08-22-2008, 09:32 AM
Simple question really...Does Mastermind also affect the pets of an ally in a multiplayer party? I ask this so I know whether or not to get it on the character that I am playing toghether with my sister, she is nature so it would affect her wolves and nymph. That would be worth it, not if it only affects my nightmare :P (we planning on staying one mastery each :))

ikpt
09-15-2008, 01:59 PM
Bump. I'm curious about the same thing. Any insight would be appreciated.

Munderbunny
09-15-2008, 10:21 PM
I believe it affects all pets in the party. If you can see the icon beneath the pet status bar, that means it's active on that pet.

ikpt
09-17-2008, 03:02 PM
Ah, I see. When I eventually have the skill on my Rit, I'll ask my friends if it affects their pets. I will return with my discovery whenever that may be. :)

Savrill
09-18-2008, 09:14 AM
thnx for the trouble, ikpt

ikpt
09-18-2008, 02:11 PM
Ok, I got the skill last night, and what happened was:

1. All my pets (Wolves, Nymph, Nightmare) had the icon pop up.
2. The only pet that wasn't mine (Core Dweller) had the icon pop up.
3. All 3 players (me, and two others) had the icon pop up on each of us as well.

I don't know if us players really got any bonuses from it, but the buff appeared to affect pretty much anything in our party.

Poinas
09-18-2008, 02:25 PM
Mastemind is an aura that affects all pets inside it's radius. Players do not get the bonuses.

ikpt
09-18-2008, 02:35 PM
Thanks for the confirmation, Poinas. :)

Savrill
09-19-2008, 01:58 AM
yes, thanks indeed. Now I know the skill is worth taking, seeing as my sister is a Nature char working with lots of pets.

TECHNOmancer
11-22-2008, 08:51 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but is the reverse also true, i.e. does Mastermind activate if a character only has the Nightmare and not any other pets? I did a little bit of experimenting with this and it seemed as though the skill wouldn't activate for my lonely little Nightmare.

jolan88
05-05-2009, 06:29 PM
Mastemind is an aura that affects all pets inside it's radius. Players do not get the bonuses.

Well I'm a diviner with only a Nightmare but the icon appeared also under my character and I did got the bonuses

yerkyerk
05-05-2009, 06:51 PM
The icon appears naturally, cause it's a positive aura emitting from a friendly unit and you're within the aura range. I don't think the bonus applies to you though.

jolan88
05-05-2009, 07:06 PM
I saw my dps rise, my mana reg went from 2.5 to 5.35. None of my gear increases the reg and I have an Int of 150 sinds lvl 21. Then I put some points in MM and voila: more damage, healt and energie regeneration. Perhaps it's only becouse I have no other pet, but it works fine for me.

yerkyerk
05-05-2009, 07:40 PM
Well, if you want to test it well, look at your DPS before you summon your nightmare and afterwards; don't activate other skills or fight or generally do anything while testing this..

It could be that it's broken, but I never heard of it before.

jolan88
05-05-2009, 07:52 PM
Perhaps a twitch then, lucky me:D

Poinas
05-06-2009, 06:10 AM
You didn't get the bonus from Mastermind, that's for sure. It was something else. Items, skills, shrine...?

jolan88
05-06-2009, 07:19 AM
I'm telling you nothing else but melee gear and a nightmare with MM. And no I didn't use any mods.

Poinas
05-06-2009, 07:32 AM
Did you try to replicate it?

Could you post your item- and skill setup?

jolan88
05-06-2009, 07:38 AM
Just post them here or use some kind of program (don't know any of those)?

Poinas
05-06-2009, 08:09 AM
You can just write the stats for items, and use www.titancalc.com for skills.

jolan88
05-06-2009, 08:30 AM
Items:
Stauch Corinthian Great hemet + erebus crystal
warriors plate
plated bracers of adroitnes (extra dex)
stauch plated greaves
griefmaker
savant trigonos shield of cloud + spiny shell
hale jewel + essence of dionisus wineskin
reflection
bolus
shadowveil


Skilltree://whttpww.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.asp?mastery=Diviner&master1=2&master2=9&sa=7&m1=11-1-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&m2=32-0-12-0-12-8-12-6-3-8-8-0-0-2-0-8-6-0-0-3-8-0

this gives me a dps of 788, healt reg of 1.0 and energie reg of 2.53. after the MM symbol appeares they change to 808, 3.5 and 5.94

Irma2
05-06-2009, 12:54 PM
I just checked this on my Ritualist. Here she is buck naked with no trances or auras active. As you can see, her health regen is 1.00 and her energy regen is 7.74:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj284/IrmaSwan/Mastermind1.jpg

I let the Nightmare attack a mob of vultures (which came for me in the process hence the reduced health bar, lol) and, with Mastermind active, my health and energy regen stay at 1.00 and 7.74 respectively. You can see the Mastermind icon under my health and energy bars:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj284/IrmaSwan/Mastermind2.jpg

I'm not saying that, by some glitch, it can't possibly happen that Mastermind affects you. Just that it ordinarily doesn't.

jolan88
05-06-2009, 01:43 PM
bummer, I apologize for any false info I spread,... but my nightmare stil rocks:rockon:

siegefried2
05-06-2009, 01:51 PM
In any case, why would you want to take Mastermind over ToC? Though if the 2 worked together for your game somehow, that might really be awesome.

jolan88
05-06-2009, 02:32 PM
I just love ToE too much, especially with the reflection ring (+2 to ToE). now I'm only hoping for the book of dream artefact, harbingerset and amulet of morpheus to create some uberreflector with 100+reflection of damage:twisted:!!

I've made it through act 1 on epic with selling 73 healthpotions in the end so I don't realy need the extra healt or manaboost

I'm just praying that this will work too for my spirit/dream caster:pray:.

Irma2
05-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Most people use ToC for the damage absorption, not the health/energy regen.

You're going to make a caster that specialises in damage reflection? Good luck.

Edit: I guess you're going petmaster and will let the Liche and NM take all the damage.

jolan88
05-06-2009, 03:46 PM
you get me wrong, as comment on siegefied2 I try to tel that idon't need ToC to get through epic. I think it would be more useful for my diviner caster.

I'm not quite sure about the pets though, they will work great together, but only as support and not defense for me

JerryM
10-29-2009, 05:36 PM
I'm a little unclear on something. So does mastermind up the nightmares stats also, or just any other pets you have?

Poinas
10-29-2009, 06:04 PM
I believe it increases Nightmare's stats too.