Whay are melle so bad ?... Well...

[Draiden]

Many have complains about melle caracters as being weak guis u have a second mastery and thats the secret as we play pvm (i think) we must use the best combination for pvm. So as a second mastery to defensive or warfare we shouldn't use other fighter becouse we need a way to heal ourselves.

so the best combination would be:

warfare/nature ( best )
warfare/spirit (my favorite) spellbraker

the same for defensive

if u like the SPELLBRAKER i might give u a hand
Warfare
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1. max the dual wield tree
2. max weapon training
3. max dodge attack
4. 1 or more points in war horn its very good when cornered
5. its up to u if u want to spend 1 or more points in Battle Standard and
Triumf i see miself as an ofensive caracter i dont stay to long in the same
place.well maibe 1 point .
Battle rage sucks to many points for to little % ( no battle rage )
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Spirit
Now for the healing part
1. Death chill aura tree ( very good )
2 Life Drain Tree ( its a must have ) but i am not sure as to how many
points to invest becouse the demage is ingreasing to slow, hmm... maybe
the best way would be to put 1 point in Life leach and max Cascade ( Tip:
Works very well with Necrosis from the Deatch Chill tree.
Dont get addictet to life leach becouse u are no mage and ur mana
regeneration is not that great. ( Tip make sure u use life leach when it will
make tha best demage) one monster life leach not to good
3 Now... there is a problem with life leach cant suck on the undead as hard
as u try. and for that we have something:
max Spirit ward but only spirit ward not the hole tree becouse of the
demage reduction, then at higher level we have Circle of power (yea) max it
--------------------------------------------------------------------------well thats all if u have more points to spend u could sumon a powerful King Liche( if u dont have something against his ugly face )

Well as for the strategie, im a kamikaze
Death Chill at all times ( or Necrosis)
1. with the living ig go quick to gatter a large crowd near the mages and archers then
war horn
i use duall skills like Cross Cut and Tunult
then a life tap
then a little of normal dual
then i fill all alone
2 with the undead just use the undead auras and a little war horn and some cutting salat skills and there gone (well its harder with the undead enyway)
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i hope that helps enyone
thanks for reading

[j1mm]

Ok, no one thinks that melee characters are weak. People think of tanks when they hear melee. That is correct, however that does not mean that they are weak. Tanks are the very backbone of a group, with out them casters would die very very easily. I am a big believer in team work and im against hybrids....

I am against hybrids because most of them are just trying to do it all and are failing miserably. Even though i say this i do believe that if done right you can get the right combo of people and hybrids.

The most powerful type of group is one that focuses on 1 person being tank 1 person being nuker and an optional third as a buff/debuff/heal.

***note: most powerful type, not the best. If playing in a party of 6 people it all changes. However one thing stays the same..... always a main tank.

Melee is not bad, it takes a truely talented person to successfuly tank. Also its not always about dealing the most damage

The first thing i look at when i make a build is if im going to survive. I look at defensive/offensive skills and compare. I would much rather survive in the hardest difficutly and deal 1/3 of the damage and spend 2/3 longer kiling the guys then dying all the time but killing very fast. :D

[Srikandi]

Heh, Jim... some people play single player y'know ;)

A good spec for coop is a very different matter from a good spec for SP, where you have to be your own tank AND healer AND dps. Which is why single player is really more challenging, even though you don't have to fight for loot ;)

[j1mm]

Ok, no one thinks that melee characters are weak. People think of tanks when they hear melee. That is correct, however that does not mean that they are weak. Tanks are the very backbone of a GROUP, with out them casters would die very very easily. I am a big believer in TEAM work and im against hybrids....



if you notice, i am adressing group combat and not SP.

Hybrids are for SP and MP they can heal themselves and do decent DPS

Howevery i am addressing group play and the roll of a melee/tank character. :D

[Draiden]

Well j1mm Titan Quest is not Lineage 2 ( or Guild Wars) ( 8) )is more like diablo and if u like to be dependent on ur friends well thats oki. but one way or another u will chose a seccond class becouse there are good skills in defensive and bad skills so in not doing so it would be a wayst of skill points. And the skill bar gives olso atributes not only skills. ( 8D )

[Sein_Schatten]

wasnt someone here who said he is doing like 160damage? meleeing? O_o

[Draiden]

wasnt someone here who said he is doing like 160damage? meleeing? O_o

Well with a multiple hit skill it wont be that hard to do that demage, in fact it would be quite easy.

[Xaece]

My Defensive tanker character does 250 damage. And thats not adding Shield and Weapon damage together. She's only lv30 recently, I hit that 250 GDD like five levels ago,need a new weapon again to go up.

[Tormac]

Im a lv 36 warfare/defense and my dps is rated at around 370 or so. I don't have much in the defense tree yet though so in Epic im dieing....a lot

I still haven't found a way to beat the Super Droid at the entrance to the temple in Greece epic. foot stomp ftw!

max hit so far is 1224.

I just started another character, caster, because of my lack of survivability in epic is frustrating me :(. I can only make so many runs with no good blues on the last guy in normal. Last night i ran him 30 times with only one blue i could use.

[Sein_Schatten]

Im a lv 36 warfare/defense and my dps is rated at around 370 or so. I don't have much in the defense tree yet though so in Epic im dieing....a lot


370? O_O my staff is doing around 70. :lol:

[j1mm]

Well j1mm Titan Quest is not Lineage 2 ( or Guild Wars) ( 8) )is more like diablo and if u like to be dependent on ur friends well thats oki. but one way or another u will chose a seccond class becouse there are good skills in defensive and bad skills so in not doing so it would be a wayst of skill points. And the skill bar gives olso atributes not only skills. ( 8D )

ok, first i would like to clarify some things...

First, i have been playing d2 for 6 years before i got xfire. Second, i did not say "do not choose a secondary" i encoraged a secondary that gives the same bonuses or near same bonuses as defense. And third when i say hybrid i'm talking about a tank trying to spell cast with only 300 mana. I think that is a waste of skill points. :D

[Draiden]

ok, first i would like to clarify some things...
And third when i say hybrid i'm talking about a tank trying to spell cast with only 300 mana. I think that is a waste of skill points. :D


As u will probabli see the mana is not such a problem, i mean i was not saying " use only magic and drop ur weapons ", as u see with my caracter i use some auras,life tap,and the horn, i mean come on allmost every item has mana regeneration. i have easly 4,5 mana regeneration and with the charms with mana regeneration ohoo, look at the Nature tree it has barbarians battle orders, but then again everyone has his own stile (i like in TQ dual weapons and i dont like mages becouse the game is to easy ) but alone dual weapons are weak. great demage but weak. All im saying is that there are many usefull warior skills lost in the mages masteris. Peace 8)

[j1mm]

im trying to bring up the issue of stat points vs armor vs skills....

if you want to wear heavy armor you need str

if you want to spell cast you need intel (only if you want storm/earth/nature)

and besides ammy's and rings.... there aren't that many armor pieces for tanks that give back nrg/nrg regen :D