Demo May 10

[J Bone]

Demo will be released May 10, that's according to Brian Sullivan in todays interview with Firingsquad.com.:) That's just 12 days away!

"The demo for Titan Quest will be released on May 10th, and will allow someone to play the first few levels of the game. We will make three skill masteries (Warfare, Hunting and Earth) available for play"

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=9999

The demo should be available through Fileplanet. Got this info from a post by Eyejinx on the TQ Vault boards.

http://vnboards.ign.com/titan_quest_general_board/b23058/95642948/p1/?11

[Gorkk]

Weee! That's good news. Only 15 days left before being able to play Titan Quest again! :) Thanks for the news.

[501105]

Thats very good news pity i wont play it until 2 weeks later since i am upgrading my pc.

[Heka]

Very good news. 12 very long days ahead.

[Karmeck]

grate news inded.

[Majpain]

OMG OMG Great news!!!

[WNxOdiom]

man i havent been this excited for a release since......hell ive never been this excited..From everything ive read it should be well worth the wait

[DaveyJJ]

Fileplanet only though? Hopefully not an exclusive thing. What about the better fast/free places like gamershell.com etc I wonder?

Depending on the demo restrictions, I have 2.5TB of bandwidth a month on my OC-3 pipe servers so might be able to (assuming permission is granted) help distribute it to forum members here if need be.

[Gorkk]

Well, personaly I always wondered why developpers / publishers never used P2P technology (bittorent and emule namely) to release demos, as it would save lots of bandwith for them.

[Karmeck]

They might not want get conected with the oter stuff you find on P2P networks.

[Alkaidia]

:) Can't wait till it comes out. :) But I hope they don't only release it on fileplanet. They will surely put it on their servers that you have to wait for. :mad: (unless you pay). Though, not to be a pessimist or anything, but I sort of wonder if maybe they released to much so that when the game comes out we won't want to play it quite as much. Of course it will probably be fine if we can only get to level seven, (though I still really want to play the game, and the demo).

Well, personaly I always wondered why developpers / publishers never used P2P technology (bittorent and emule namely) to release demos, as it would save lots of bandwith for them.
Probably cause they hate p2p networks.

[Eyejinx]

Greetings:
We have a hosting deal with FilePlanet, so they'll have it first, but it's not an exclusive deal, so anyone who wants to host it after that is free to.

Also, I think you can only get to level 6 in the demo.

Best,
Eyejinx.

[Alkaidia]

Greetings:
We have a hosting deal with FilePlanet, so they'll have it first, but it's not an exclusive deal, so anyone who wants to host it after that is free to.

Also, I think you can only get to level 6 in the demo.

Best,
Eyejinx.

Great! Specially that we will be able to get it other places, (though if fileplanet will get me it faster, I will probably use them anyways). Nice to here that it won't give to much away though. At least it is for me.

[ruubster]

this is great news:) I am so happy now :D

[ToiMoi]

bittorrent would be nice yeah.. i have μtorrent for downloading naruto.. easy to use and fast.. would be nice if we could get a large enough crowd to share it via torrents ^^

looking forward to the demo.. although i'm nervous about it with this old card in our pc.. :o

[DaveyJJ]

Greetings:
We have a hosting deal with FilePlanet, so they'll have it first, but it's not an exclusive deal, so anyone who wants to host it after that is free to.

Also, I think you can only get to level 6 in the demo.

Best,
Eyejinx.

Thanks, Eyejinx. As I said in my previous post, I have a 2.5TB bandwidth OC3 pipe available and I'm willing to host it as well, especially for the community here.

Do you have a (really) rough guess as to file size; i.e., are we talking 150MB or 600MB? Thanks.

[Karmeck]

Thanks, Eyejinx. As I said in my previous post, I have a 2.5TB bandwidth OC3 pipe available and I'm willing to host it as well, especially for the community here.

Do you have a (really) rough guess as to file size; i.e., are we talking 150MB or 600MB? Thanks.

And the demo release date is now officially 5/10. As I said in the other thread, it will be available first on FilePlanet but likely soon thereafter on the usual suspects. It will also be available as a pre-order incentive at some retail outlets for those of you who don't like to download large files (the demo clocks in at something like 500MB).

[DaveyJJ]

And the demo release date is now officially 5/10. As I said in the other thread, it will be available first on FilePlanet but likely soon thereafter on the usual suspects. It will also be available as a pre-order incentive at some retail outlets for those of you who don't like to download large files (the demo clocks in at something like 500MB).

Sorry about the question. I just finished reading the other thread where it had been answered and rushed over here to change my post and noticed you'd already answered. Oops.

[Majpain]

I'll have to use my friends acc to dl it.Im excited.

[Conrad'son]

Sorry if the answer is already there, but I didn't see it : is the demo will be only solo, or multi too ?

[Majpain]

Its only solo.I think in the demo they have you doing 1 quest you can get to lvl 6.

[501105]

Found this on amazon.com today apparently the demo can be bought in a solid cd form

LINK:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FEQ0KA/ref=pd_bbs_null_3/103-9907142-6506245?s=videogames&v=glance&n=468642

[Alkaidia]

Interesting. Especially how it says it can be delivered on May 5. Though I don't think I would pay the huge amount for one day shipping just to get it five days earlier. Course, I wouldn't really pay anything just to get it five days earlier. I am getting worried that amazon.ca isn't selling it yet though, (which is really strange). I was going to buy it there with some gift certificates I have.

[DaveyJJ]

Yeah, the May 5th date struck me as weird too. Someone from Iron Lore want to speak to that?

[Haay1971]

Heh heh, if DaveyJJ gets hold of the demo he can host it on his fast pipe and we can all download it from him, days before the official release of the demo at May 10. *wishful thinking*

Hm, wonder how long it takes to level up a character to level 6 and get to see the "This is the end of the demo, buy the full game on <date>" message. Can't WAIT to get the full release from the store next month!!!

[Arangar]

Heh heh, if DaveyJJ gets hold of the demo he can host it on his fast pipe and we can all download it from him, days before the official release of the demo at May 10. *wishful thinking*

Hm, wonder how long it takes to level up a character to level 6 and get to see the "This is the end of the demo, buy the full game on <date>" message. Can't WAIT to get the full release from the store next month!!!

I dont hope after 1 hour, im planning on playing the demo till release. 3 classes, alot of exploring and maaaaybe we wont get bored till release date :p .

[DaveyJJ]

Heh heh, if DaveyJJ gets hold of the demo he can host it on his fast pipe and we can all download it from him, days before the official release of the demo at May 10. *wishful thinking*

Be more than happy to if the THQ/Iron Lore guys said OK. But one problem ... I'm in Canada so can't get this mysterious CD sent up past the border. But I have the bandwidth and pipe no problem ... I estimate that there are less than 100 forum members and if everyone downloaded from me I'd use only 40GB of my 2+ TB monthly bandwidth for the demo.



Hm, wonder how long it takes to level up a character to level 6 and get to see the "This is the end of the demo, buy the full game on <date>" message. Can't WAIT to get the full release from the store next month!!!

I suspect that the demo will keep most of busy for a while. If there are six levels to explore, we'll be able to experiment with the three "classes" and play with the first few levels of each mastery so it should allow us to all see what many of the low levels skills for each of these three masteries do.

Can't wait. Only 4 days and 11 hours now (unless someone volunteers to ship me Amazon's May 5th mystery disk).

[Zidave]

Well the release is only next month, so the demo will keep me happy and even more excited for the game :), even though I dont know how my 9800 pro is going to run it :(

[mrtuck73]

I got the demo on disk last Friday and have been playing it all weekend.
My rig: AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 1 gb system RAM, GeForce 6600TD 256 mb PCI Express 16.

My system is a little on the low end, especially on the system RAM and I am upgrading to 2 gb before this game comes out. Even with a 256 mb 6600 card I get some lag and have to turn most video settings to Low but detail and shadows are on medium (I would not lower detail below med. as on low you don't get the cool 3d effects on flowers and grass also, shadows on low look very pixelated). Hopefully more RAM will help, but the fact that the requirements call for a 6800 or better tells me that they are using some of the direct x 9c features and a 6600 card just won't hang.

The game itself is visually stunning down to the little details, like the stones in the road and the fire. It has alot to offer in the way of eye candy! Even better than the visuals is the interface. It is very easy to use and intuitive. Here is one quick example. I always compare to Diablo II, so in D2 when you were trying to decide if a new item you found was better than your existing item you had to go back and forth and in other games, they might show stats going up or down if the new item were selected, but in TQ, you have a setting where it shows the stats for the item you are using and the new item side by side so you can make a quick comparison. Also they have a quick sell feature so you just right click the item and it is sold. These things sound trivial, but it is the small detail that makes the game. I also like the mapping in this game, as you can tell where you have not been even if you are replaying from the beginning (you'll see what I mean)

So far I have gone through the demo about 15 times (I played ravenously) and even the last time through I saw a creature type I had not seen in any of the previous times so I am sure in the full version replay-ability will be high.

I have found a few Rare items(green) and a few on the next rung Epic maybe (blue) but nothing amazing, although some of the added effects are cool.

Favorite character type in the demo: Pyromancer (Earth magic). Except I bump up the str and dex stats to use better melee weapons. It is a cool way to fight.

I would post some pics, but I am at work now and will not be home until later today, maybe I will drop some screens then.

Hope you don't mind my long-winded dissertation, but after all, I was an English major!

[Arangar]

Omg, i have the same system only a 9800 pro. Kinda sucks to hear it didnt run that great, and weird that you allready have the demo.
Oh, and 15 times threw the demo in 3 days? That sounds like it doenst have much content. Im gonna have to find another game to keep me busy till june 26th :p .

[mrtuck73]

Actually 15 times through the demo is alot (I played constantly) but it was tough to have leveling stop at level 6. I wasn't even through it once when I reached that cap. Now I am just trying to complete relics, they are really cool. Some of them can be used on armor, some on weapons, and some even on rings and amulets. So I have half of my inventory with partial relics and I keep searching for other pieces to complete them.

And I actually had the demo in my hands last Friday. I ordered it on disk through Amazon. Long story short, they owed me some credit from previous "issues" with shipments so I used that to pay for it (I know why pay for a demo) but it did have a $10 off coupon with it for Best Buy, and that is where I have already pre-ordered anyhow.

[501105]

A bit more ram would certainly help to decrease the lag and you processor is plenty fast to run tq since the game doesnt need a fast processor (pentium 4 3 GHZ for max) it is your vid card holding you back to be able to use all visual features and get it on max you need a 7 series vid card

[mrtuck73]

Thanks for the heads up, I actully do not have a problem with everything set to medium on the graphics, it still looks great! I ordered another GB of RAM and should have it within a week.

[Haay1971]

Wow, thanks for the detailed post about your first impressions of the demo! Can't wait to get my hands on it too! But if 1 person got the demodisk, I'm sure there are more who got it, and so it might be interesting to search the P2P networks for the demo instead of waiting for Fileplanet to release it sometime in the evening USA-time (which would be deep in the night already on thursday for us Europeans).

Well, looks like I'll be on the OK side with my ATI Radeon X800XL which is definitely faster than a Geforce 6600. But I hope it still will run and look okay on my wife's PC which uses replaced components from my PC, and her PC is running an AthlonXP 2000+, 1 GB RAM, and a Radeon 9600Pro graphicscard.

[DaveyJJ]

Wow! All I can say is fantastic mini-review mrtuck73. The specific things you've pointed out (the item comparison and quick sell buttons) just add to the excitement of getting my hands on this game. Thanks for taking the time to post your impressions! Very much appreciated!

[J Bone]

You've been playing the demo all weekend and you didn't tell anyone we could get it early? You're a naughty boy, aren't you? Nah, I'm just kidding around thanks for the write up. I was wondering, some folks(present company excluded) are waiting for the demo to determine weather or not to buy TQ, what would you say to those people?

[mrtuck73]

I would say that if I had any concerns before the demo, they are gone now! This is the game I have been looking for. When it comes to RPG (action and traditional) I have played many D1, D2, DS, DS2, Baldur's Gate series(dating myself: Eye of the Beholder Series, Savage frontier Series, now there were some graphics!!:eek: what can I say, I like Forgotten Realms) but none had everything I wanted. Even D2 LOD was lacking in some ways that I was able to live with, but would have liked to work differently. "Item Farming" is my favorite thing about the genre and it looks like TQ is truly very robust in that area. Even though the demo limits you to a small part of the game and only 6 levels, you can still find good stuff. It seems to be more random than D2. There are times I make a run through the hardest parts of the demo and only find one or two chests with only basic equipment in them and get poor monster drops, then the next time there are 5 or 6 chests in the same area covered and I will get a couple good magic items and maybe a rare or two. I haven't found any set items, but maybe they were kept out of the demo somehow.

Overall I think the demo solidified it for me.

[DaveyJJ]

I would say that if I had any concerns before the demo, they are gone now! This is the game I have been looking for. When it comes to RPG (action and traditional) I have played many D1, D2, DS, DS2, Baldur's Gate series(dating myself: Eye of the Beholder Series, Savage frontier Series, now there were some graphics!!:eek: what can I say, I like Forgotten Realms) but none had everything I wanted. Even D2 LOD was lacking in some ways that I was able to live with, but would have liked to work differently. "Item Farming" is my favorite thing about the genre and it looks like TQ is truly very robust in that area. Even though the demo limits you to a small part of the game and only 6 levels, you can still find good stuff. It seems to be more random than D2. There are times I make a run through the hardest parts of the demo and only find one or two chests with only basic equipment in them and get poor monster drops, then the next time there are 5 or 6 chests in the same area covered and I will get a couple good magic items and maybe a rare or two. I haven't found any set items, but maybe they were kept out of the demo somehow.

Overall I think the demo solidified it for me.

Now all we need is some word back from one of the folks we're trying to PM :confused: Come on, come on, come on .... :D

[J Bone]

Coolness! Supposedly, as you advance in the game the ragdoll physics and spell effects intensify. That and we have yet to see any video or screenshot of co-op play.:) By the way, do you know if you can play the demo in co-op mode?

[Mammouth]

mrtuck73, can you describe us the skills of the 3 masteries ?
I know that only 3 masteries are available in the demo, but can we take a look at the other masteries ? Can we discover the skills of the other masteries (although we cannot use them) ? I recognize that I am very impatient to discover the skills.
Can you post some screenshots of the masteries tabs, or of the skills in action ?
Thanks.

[mrtuck73]

When you try to select Multiplay in the Demo, it tells you that that feature is not enabled. You also cannot choose a female character in the Demo.

I have seen the rag doll physics cause a Satyr to get stuck in the top of a tree. He flew so high he disappeared off the screen and all I could see was a shadow and then he landed in the tree. I also had one land on top of a tripod on top of a cooking fire. I have a screenshot of that one and when I am able to post pics I will add that one (roasted Satyr anyone?).

If you want to see the enemies fly, you may want to beef up on STR. I play mostly as an Earth mage called a Pyromancer and I can enchant my weapons to do fire damage so that combined with a high strength seems to "blast" them into the air.

I think in the actual game, if you play as a Pyromancer, you may no want to put so much into strength. My plan is this, a Pyromancer then a Rogue when it can be selected.

[mrtuck73]

Unfortunately you cannot see what is in each of the other masteries, only their overall description is listed with a pick. In each of the playables (bad memory: warrior, earth mage, and hunter) You can see all of the skills. I actually tried on character where I went as high as I could in Earth magic and then selected the Deep Dweller, I think it is called (magma golem). He took alot of damage for me and was helpful doing damage as well, he was little slow and I had to stop periodically to let him catch up so that enemies "saw" him first.

[DaveyJJ]

I just received word that I'll be unable to host the demo on my own servers until May 11. As a parent (and gamer) I'm of course respecting the decision of TQ's owners and look forwward to grabbing the demo ASAP May 10th from FilePlanet. I appreciate the time taken by the various parties involved to sort this out for us on the forums here. Thanks guys!

[Napoleon]

I just received word that I'll be unable to host the demo on my own servers until May 11. As a parent (and gamer) I'm of course respecting the decision of TQ's owners and look forwward to grabbing the demo ASAP May 10th from FilePlanet. I appreciate the time taken by the various parties involved to sort this out for us on the forums here. Thanks guys!
Damn :) .. ah whatever 1-2 days. I've without doubt tried worse.

[DaveyJJ]

It seems the FilePlanet page we want is either the home page or this one ...

http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/titan_quest/demo/

I believe FilePlanet requires a login and password/registration of some form or another?

[mrtuck73]

I am so sorry I even brought this up. I should have kept my mouth shut about the demo. When I am able to post pics, do you guys even want them? I can post them under screenshots or have one of the admins post them if I cannot.

[J Bone]

I would love to see some screenshots.:) I would especially like to see the interface and the item comparison thing that sounds cool. Don't forget the roasted satyr, I'm getting kinda hungry.:D

[mrtuck73]

As soon as I can post pics. I have about 5 or 6 ready showing items and of course the roasting Satyr.

Update***

I have added some pics.

[J Bone]

You're not gonna get in trouble for this, are you?:eek:

Those screens are wicked!

[mrtuck73]

They are just pics. It is not my fault that I was able to purchase the demo last Friday and I am already playing it. Unless I am told otherwise, these screenshots are my property and I am sharing them with this community by my choice. Hope you all enjoy.

Seriously though, if anyone from Iron Lore has a problem with me posting pics let me know, but I don't see how it could be a problem.

[J Bone]

So what are the 7 icons in the lower right hand corner? Are they for inventory, map, quest log ect.?

Are all melee fighters right handed and ranged left? Or can you alternate?

What is above the body armor? Is that the amulet space?

[mrtuck73]

As far as I can tell, in the Demo they are all right handed.

The icons in the bottom right(from right to left): Game Menu, Help, Next?(Don't know it gives me no description must be for MP), Next? same as last one no description, Map, Quests, Skills, and Inventory. These all have quick keys that are assignable.

The other place above the Armor is a spot for Beads. Other things might go there later, but in the Demo there is another item called beads which can give additional bonuses (+ to str, dex, etc...)

Amulets are in the spot above the Greaves (or "shin guards").

[J Bone]

I'm kinda confused. Where are the rings and bracers? Do amulets go around your neck?

In one screen the bracers are above the greaves?

[mrtuck73]

Sorry, my bad. The beads must be the amulets slot but have not seen any amulets. The other slot is actually for bracelets or bracers. Rings are at the bottom.

Sorry again I am trying to do 3 things at once.

[J Bone]

So there are 5 resistances huh. I should have know, that totally slipped my mind. Looks like fire, ice, lightning, poison, and earth or melee.
Adding a relic gives you a + sign to examine it?
Do the arrows by your feet allow you to rotate your character?

This is really cool:D Thanks mrtuck73

[mrtuck73]

The last one is actually Pierce resistance.

Adding a relic or charm gives the plus sign to let you know one is applied to that item. Charms usually drop from monsters. An example is Boar's Hide, 5 combined make a complete charm.

The arrows at the feet of the character let you rotate the avatar within the inventory screen.

[~V~]

Hey mrtuck73,

You've become pretty popular today. LOL. The two buttons on the buttom of the HUD you could not access are for multiplayer - one is the chat button for the chat window and the other is the party button to bring up the party window which is used to see information about your multiplayer game and to manage and invite people into your party.

Sorry we couldnt get the distribution clearance on the demo, but at least you guys are getting a good sneak peak. I have asked Theo to start a few new sections on the forum specifically for the demo. The devs will be watching those forums closely so we can gather your feedback and impressions and use that info as we move towards working on patches, etc.

Also amultes and beads are functionally the same piece of jewelry. The beads turn into fancier objects like amulets as you advance into the game.

We will do our best to reply to your questions this week - but some of the team is out at E3 and the rest are back in the office putting the final touches on game balance and tweaks getting ready for release.

[J Bone]

As far as the feedback and impressions go, will you be noting from the get go what you are not looking to hear about or is everything free game? For example, as everyone knows I would like some choice in hair style and skin tones whereas someone else may want a character stored server. Will you be letting us know what not to ask for or what can't be changed?

[mrtuck73]

~V~

Thanks for your response. I have to say even with E3 going on you guys sure are very accessible. I have said it in another post, but it is sure refreshing to see from a Game Developer!! I was losing hope that the big corporations had swallowed all of you up.

I can completely understand about the demo hosting and I can't speak for everyone, but DaveyJJ (person who offered to host) and I did not consider it without asking you guys first. You have been too good to the community and we appreciate that.

My first impression of the game is that it is amazing and I find myself searching the net for some of the places (Helos) and brushing up on my ancient Greek history. I have to say that there is one point in the demo where you hear all of insects (cicadas especially) and see the browning grass and you can almost feel the heat of the day! I can't wait to go beyond the block in the game to greener pastures!

Thank you for taking the time to post.

[medierra]

As far as the feedback and impressions go, will you be noting from the get go what you are not looking to hear about or is everything free game? For example, as everyone knows I would like some choice in hair style and skin tones whereas someone else may want a character stored server. Will you be letting us know what not to ask for or what can't be changed?

By the time we start getting feedback from the demo it will be too late to make many changes. However, we have scheduled time to work on a patch after the game is released to address some of the issues that come up in the demo and once millions (hopefully) of people are playing the final game.

Features like character customization would be very difficult to add to TQ as it would conflict with the way some aspects of the game work. However, it is good to hear about the demand for such featues on the forums so that we can give them due consideration when designing future products.

[Deadrex]

Where so i see thoose pictures, havent figured that out yet :P? :D

[mrtuck73]

The pics are under the section called Images, Links, and Downloads. In that section select screenshots, then sort by date descending and you should see them.

[Haay1971]

I wonder at what TIME the demo will become available for download from the Fileplanet server. Hopefully it won't be sometime in the evening USA time, because it will be already 11th of May for us Europeans and I'll be sleeping already then. I really HOPE I can start the download on wednesday as soon as I come home from work, and still manage to start to play the demo before I need to go to bed (since I have to work again on thursday).

[Twisted13]

So we need to pay for a subsciption just to dl a demo?

[DaveyJJ]

I'm not sure. FilePlanet is largely a subscription-based site, yes, but there is a possibility of having two "versions" of the demo available tomorrow ... one for subscribers with no waits and fast downloads, and one for the public (aka seething unwashed masses who don't have an account) that will "feature" wait times, speed-capped downloads, etc.

That being said, I'm certain that other sites (gamershell etc) will be grabbing it and posting it as soon as possible, and that others here might help other forum members.

[Twisted13]

I'm not sure. FilePlanet is largely a subscription-based site, yes, but there is a possibility of having two "versions" of the demo available tomorrow ... one for subscribers with no waits and fast downloads, and one for the public (aka seething unwashed masses who don't have an account) that will "feature" wait times, speed-capped downloads, etc.

That being said, I'm certain that other sites (gamershell etc) will be grabbing it and posting it as soon as possible, and that others here might help other forum members.

Alright well keep me posted if there are other means of dling the demo.

[DaveyJJ]

I think 3dgamers.com is part of the whole IGN/FilePlanet network etc ... and therefore the downloads come off of the same servers/pipes, but here's another link to the demo tomorrow via 3dgamers ... right on the main page.

http://www.3dgamers.com/

[Twisted13]

I think 3dgamers.com is part of the whole IGN/FilePlanet network etc ... and therefore the downloads come off of the same servers/pipes, but here's another link to the demo tomorrow via 3dgamers ... right on the main page.

http://www.3dgamers.com/

Well you still have to subscribe, but it is cheaper.

[~V~]

The rumor i heard is that it will go live on File Planet and 3DGamers at 11 AM PST during Brian Sullivans live interview on IGN's Live Wire at E3.

[DaveyJJ]

11AM PST?! Ah ah ah! That's like 2PM here! I was going to download and play at lunch! Ah! Shucks!

Note to European fans ... that's tomorrow evening or night for you! Even worse luck! :(

[Napoleon]

PST is 10+ hours from Denmark. And with the slow servers I am not going to be able to play before friday. And then again I'm not home at friday or saturday :) Maybe I'm going to die.

[eoph]

i saw some items have magic absorption. so is there magic damage that you can't increase resistance for like in diablo, or does magic damage just mean any damage that isn't melee?

[DaveyJJ]

And with the slow servers....

I have been given the OK to host/mirror the demo file May 11th and my servers are fast enough to allow you to download the demo quickly (two OC3 pipes). I'll post a link when I am able to.

[Napoleon]

I have been given the OK to host/mirror the demo file May 11th and my servers are fast enough to allow you to download the demo quickly (two OC3 pipes). I'll post a link when I am able to.
Sounds like a deal ! :) That would be great.

[Twisted13]

I have been given the OK to host/mirror the demo file May 11th and my servers are fast enough to allow you to download the demo quickly (two OC3 pipes). I'll post a link when I am able to.

Awsome and thanks alot!

[Majpain]

Omg tomorrow I will get to play TQ!!!!

[pzgrenadier]

11:00 hrs PST would be like 2AM local time... guess it is also good since i can avoid the first rush of downloaders. Guess can't do anything at work these two days until I got my hands on the demo........ :(

[Heka]

Damn it's 8.15 am may 10th in Finalnd and I must go to school...
Hope the demo comes out when i'm back home.

[Lestai]

^^ HAHA, it just became may 10th its 1am in the morning and im up waiting for the demo i got fileplanet open and the official site among others, but i dont expect it until after i goto bed then it will be out. lol

PS - i dont think the guys at FP are out of bed yet.

Big hugs,
Lestai

[Alkaidia]

Yah its just past midnight here, (pacific time), so I am going to go to bed to wait.

For those of you wondering you have to register to download from Fileplanet but you don't have to pay unless you want no wait times. There are no speed caps though and the speed has been quite good whenever I have used it. The annoying thing is that if it is not a newer file that poeple want there are no wait times so they obviously have the server space but just refuse to use it for anything popular. :mad:

[MadWasp]

Heeya mrtuck73 !



Those inside game menu looks like a little bit Sacred-style. Unfortunatelly...


I think the character equipment panels look extremely awful.... Pffhhhh, This was a great disappoint for me.Surprise attack.... Too small weapons pictures, attribute visuals far too basics in menu, and "bag version" gfx of the equipment.Tiny potion pictures... Ugly small. There are lack of(NO) unique character/true type font set...

No designed antic letters. Greek or roman.

WHY??????????????????????????????????????

D2 showed a bigger equipment panel. It boosted your visual pleasure!

Howevere the game in combat looks great, and tons of good stuff around there.Playground, really rocks!Roger that! Good results. It rocks, but something still need!

What's your opinion, pal!?

[Tjukkie]

equipment screen looks dirt ugly yes, I think most ppl thing that way :p

maybe it will get prettier with a mod or something ^^


EDIT: Btw, howlong till demo release in GMT+1? ^^; (I live in holland :p)

[MadWasp]

Important notice:

We demand a complete new and beautiful redrawed character panel screen!!!


Your aim is "the best hack and slash ever made". You have work to do, and we will immediatelly buy! :)
Sounds like a deal!

[DaveyJJ]

EDIT: Btw, howlong till demo release in GMT+1? ^^; (I live in holland :p)

Well, if it's released at 11AM Pacific Time that's 2PM Eastern or 6PM (1800) GMT so 7PM (1900) in Holland I suspect.

[Tjukkie]

Well, if it's released at 11AM Pacific Time that's 2PM Eastern or 6PM (1800) GMT so 7PM (1900) in Holland I suspect.

thnx for clearing that up ^^

timezones always make me fuzzy ~.~

[Haay1971]

As far as I know The Netherlands (where I also live) is 9 hours ahead of the West coast of the USA (PST). So 11 AM PST = 20:00 hours CET.

[Tjukkie]

As far as I know The Netherlands (where I also live) is 9 hours ahead of the West coast of the USA (PST). So 11 AM PST = 20:00 hours CET.

8PM it is then :p

gonna be a looong night, tonight xD

[DaveyJJ]

That's probably right, because GMT is not the same as UT.

[J Bone]

Those inside game menu looks like a little bit Sacred-style. Unfortunatelly...

I think the character equipment panels look extremely awful.... Pffhhhh, This was a great disappoint for me.Surprise attack.... Too small weapons pictures, attribute visuals far too basics in menu, and "bag version" gfx of the equipment.Tiny potion pictures... Ugly small. There are lack of(NO) unique character/true type font set...

No designed antic letters. Greek or roman.

WHY??????????????????????????????????????

D2 showed a bigger equipment panel. It boosted your visual pleasure!

MadWasp, I agree completely. Looks like they are cutting more corners. Oh well, it's gonna cost em.:(

[Heka]

Damn the timezones! To bad that I live in Finland. Finland is in the Northwest corner in europe and the time will be like too late when the Dl finally opens, and besides the server will be so full of people that the dl time will be way to long. Well there is always tomorrow ;) .

[Tjukkie]

About 4hours left then, right?

[Redcell]

Anyone get the demo yet? Where if you did.

[DaveyJJ]

It's 10:30AM here near Toronto, so it'll be another 3-1/2 hours, yes, before the live interview starts with Brian Sullivan and when we should see the demo posted. (I have enough CSS coding to do to keep me busy until then anyhow.)

[Hammerman]

I think the character equipment panels look extremely awful.... Pffhhhh, This was a great disappoint for me.Surprise attack.... Too small weapons pictures, attribute visuals far too basics in menu, and "bag version" gfx of the equipment.Tiny potion pictures... Ugly small. There are lack of(NO) unique character/true type font set...

No designed antic letters. Greek or roman.

WHY??????????????????????????????????????

D2 showed a bigger equipment panel. It boosted your visual pleasure!

I have to agree with you, the inventory screen was a real let down for me. It looks really plain and dull, and even reminded me somewhat of Diablo (the original). A real surprise since the game looks so visually stunning in all other aspects.

[mrtuck73]

I thought I would throw this out there, but I could be wrong about this, it is my perception:

I found that after I completed the demo with a character and then went back through, I no longer got very good drops. I then created a new character and went through the demo and just did not finish the last quest and it seems I get better drops when I go back through it.

Again, I might just be perceiving something that is actually not happening, but I just thought I would give a heads up just in case.

[Lunde]

1. When can i download the demo?
2. Where can i download it?
3. Is it free to download?

[Tjukkie]

1. in about 2 and half hours
2. fileplanet
3. yes

please use search

[SiCk4]

I agree with the poor interface (perhaps changed until final release)?
Come dev's its not that hard to change it, like changing multi-player aspects or adding a custom character creation.

Sometimes a small change, causes the exactly impact between great success and "not that great" success.

[]'s
SiCk4.

[Tjukkie]

been no new posts the last 40min...

guess everyone is a bit too excited? (like me :p)

only 20min. left

[Twisted13]

Yes 20 min left... and then I'll find out if I have to wait dl it tomorrow or today. Hopefully you don't have to subscribe.

[Heka]

The server will crash!! :D Only 15 min.

[Tjukkie]

anywhere else then fileplanet where you can download it? :x
Or was it fileplanet exclusivly? >.<

[SiCk4]

9 min...
GOGOGO!

[ruubster]

1 min gogogoogog:D

[Tjukkie]

its time!!!

[Krika02]

Happy new year!

IT IS UP! On gamespy

[DaveyJJ]

FilePlanet and 3dgamer (same parent company) exclusively for the first 24 hours. I suspect that won't stop many of the otehr key download sites (gamershell etc) from grabbing it and posting it as soon as they are able.

I will also mirror it May 11th myself a few times on my own servers to help out the community.

[DaveyJJ]

First person to find a link on the FilePlanet site wins!

[~V~]

The live interview will be starting momentarily and the demo should be available shortly after.

[ruubster]

w00t got it :D
http://www.fileplanet.com/filelist.aspx?s=104384&v=0

[Tjukkie]

Happy new year!

IT IS UP! On gamespy

where? :/

got link? ^^;

[Redcell]

I have the download mgr up but haveing to wait 25 mins.

[Krika02]

You can get it at 3dgamers

http://www.3dgamers.com/news/class/demo/

Or fileplanet

http://www.fileplanet.com/163335/download/Titan-Quest-Demo-

[ruubster]

where? :/

got link? ^^;

heres link:)

http://www.fileplanet.com/filelist.aspx?s=104384&v=0

now I just need to wait another 37 min before I can download :p

[Tjukkie]

got it :D

37min. qeue >XD

[Redcell]

http://www.fileplanet.com/new50.aspx?s=174&v=90001

top 1

[Redcell]

15 min till i DL it.

[Tjukkie]

happy that fileplanet didn't make it Subscribers exclusively ^^

[SiCk4]

here comes the most extended 37 minutes of my life...

[DaveyJJ]

Downloading very fast now. See you all in a few days. Will post link tonight to my own mirrors after date change to May 11.

[eoph]

such a long wait :(

[ruubster]

w00t I am allready downloading :D

only 48 min left :D

tip: register at file planet and use the 3dgamer link :) then you can use the 'fast servers for registered users' link

:D

[Haay1971]

Help ? I'm a Fileplanet registered user, but I only see a download link for subscribers ???

Yesssss, downloading from 3D Gamers. Thanks for the tip to use that link! :)

[Tjukkie]

w00t I am allready downloading :D

only 48 min left :D

tip: register at file planet and use the 3dgamer link :) then you can use the 'fast servers for registered users' link

:D

woot!

thnx for the tip! XD

[ruubster]

at that page, in the upper right corner there is a link in red with 'register' click on that link and you will be taken to another page from wich I logged in....

[DaveyJJ]

w00t I am allready downloading :D

only 48 min left :D

tip: register at file planet and use the 3dgamer link :) then you can use the 'fast servers for registered users' link

:D

Yup. I'm getting it at over 600K/sec and have only 8 minutes left now.

[Lestai]

Lunde - welcome to the forums. :)

*sigh* still no demo and i try to watch the E3 event but cant seem to do that either, then lost my ign account or forgot what the hell i used for name so cant seem to login there but can log my fileplanet, like omg what a time to start forgetting psw's and stuff when you actually need them. :(


I have to agree im not fond of the UI, it could use a major overhaul. There is alot of things not just the inventory, but with left top corner were you have life/mana bar could spiced up a bit looks kinda bland, i think diablo had it best with life/mana orbs that fill up. Just a bunch of things they could do after all its a 2006 game and looks to have a 1980's interface attached to it. Sorry i didnt mean to get anyone fired. lol

I think they try to theme it as its gold colored to mesh well with all the desert sand graphics , and i dont mind that but think that looks to metalic hehe while we are on the subject, it should probably look more plastic golden but i think the overall way it is, is ok, so what do you guys think while we wait, at least we got something to talk about...

Ok now i need to go see who the hell posted first on the demo threads as i still cant find the demo anywere....

2pm east coast current time. Well its just a little past that now and i am DLing atm finally. :)

Big hugs,
Lestai

[ruubster]

Yup. I'm getting it at over 600K/sec and have only 8 minutes left now.

*jealous*

I am only getting 180 kb/s :(

[DaveyJJ]

Register at 3dgamers ... it's free and then use their links to download.


*jealous*
I am only getting 180 kb/s :(

Don't be. I'm sucking bandwidth off the corporate pipe here and IT could shut me out any second. But only 4 minutes left now.

[Lestai]

Use the subscribers i also just a registered user and used there fast speed server so just go ahead and click it!!!

Big hugs,
Lestai

[Karmeck]

Downloading att 500kb/s+ using flashget on 3dgames link.

Flashget:
http://www.amazesoft.com/download.htm

[DaveyJJ]

Download complete!!!

[Karmeck]

Download complete!!!

Then wont you up-load it for us. Not that i need it but for all the other out there.

[Majpain]

Its not downloading for me at Fileplanet :(

Nvm got it to work!

[Bardo]

I'm only getting 20-40 kb at fileplanet atm :eek:
got in line for the 3dgamers server, hope it will be faster there... I planned to play the demo all night, so I will be soo sad if it'll take forever to dl :p

[Arangar]

Getting 100kb/s here from the 3dgamers registered link. 1 hour to go, gonna watch some friends to kill the time :).

[ruubster]

only 27 mins for me to :) so I am going to watch some tv as well

gl all! :D

[Redcell]

Im getting a pretty steady 168kb its say it will be done in about 40 mins. And i think thats slow.

[Redcell]

Ya im going to run and eat . Ill post my thought on the game later after Ive played it a couple of times. Good luck all and happy gaming.

[Twisted13]

I'm going at a steady 400k shyould be done in 20min max :)

[Bardo]

well, got on to a 3dgamers server after only 10 min in line. Pretty stable speed around 375kb, s&#229; thank you sooo much for the tip. thats GOLD :D 15 min until it's down, so just enough time to get some dinner... no time for food that cannot be eaten in front of the comp after that

happy gaming all :cool:

[Gorkk]

It seems the later you get on 3DGamers servers, the less speed you get though... I top at only 45 ko/s while my connection can get over 400 ko/s (although I have 120 ko/s used with other things by my bro, that's plenty of bandwidth to get more than only 45 ko/s) :(

[Bardo]

maybe it depends on the server and your location... I'm in Denmark and took the UK-server. 1 min left :)

[Lestai]

My speed is 188kb and have 5 mins left, woot!!! here it comes. :)

Big hugs,
Lestai

[Krika02]

Im one of the lucky guys , download complete for over 15mins ago. Funny, that there is some kind of error , so i cant see any text in the game " Tag not found ", reinstalling it now , probably just some weird thing on my comp. But the game runs perfectly.

[Lestai]

No errors plz...

Big hugs,
Lestai

[Gorkk]

GamersHell made a (fast) mirror: http://www.gamershell.com/download_13703.shtml

(Some are at 750 ko/s, i'm only at 200 ko/s due to my bro's dl ;))

edit: kriska >> do you ahve that in English, or in your language? cause it might be that your language is not fully translated yet :p

[DaveyJJ]

Then wont you up-load it for us. Not that i need it but for all the other out there.

I can not upload until tomorrow (May 11th) but I will post as soon as it gets past midnight.

BTW, it plays fantastically on an iMac running XP SP2 using Boot Camp. This looks freaking awesome!!!!

[Lestai]

Im going to play now cya all in a few hrs maybe longer. :)

Big hugs,
Lestai

[Alkaidia]

Thank you GamersHell!!! Both fileplanet and 3dgamers had a minimum 45 min wait.

[Maji]

demo was disapointment I dislike the inventory and also some the visuals abit chopy, for the amount hype they gave it, it nothing special deaths are rather plain too and affects are ok but could of had more to them, from what I saw which was basically 10mins of play then it said demo is finished "load crap no one can see what game really like from killing few boar and centaurs and skeli, the gore is missed I noticed it alot when id slay things they would take a nap, also it is a bit buggy in some parts basically I im disapointed with the demo as it showed bugger all content and is basically like watching one them trailers, the inventory sucked too and what annoyed me most is I went earth mastery and it locked me into fire only, thought this guy said we wouldnt get locked into a class ya right soon u choose mastery u cant mix and match it is worse than diablo 2 at least in that you could mix the elements not be stuck as fire only etc if you choose fire anyone else noticed this about the skills? game wont last long from what I saw of it, it rather plain and not being able change camera angle is frustrating im just gonna dl a cracked copy if I decide to try the final, it not worth my 100$...

[Napoleon]

demo was disapointment I dislike the inventory and also some the visuals abit chopy, for the amount hype they gave it, it nothing special deaths are rather plain too and affects are ok but could of had more to them, from what I saw which was basically 10mins of play then it said demo is finished "load crap no one can see what game really like from killing few boar and centaurs and skeli, the gore is missed I noticed it alot when id slay things they would take a nap, also it is a bit buggy in some parts basically I im disapointed with the demo as it showed bugger all content and is basically like watching one them trailers, the inventory sucked too and what annoyed me most is I went earth mastery and it locked me into fire only, thought this guy said we wouldnt get locked into a class ya right soon u choose mastery u cant mix and match it is worse than diablo 2 at least in that you could mix the elements not be stuck as fire only etc if you choose fire anyone else noticed this about the skills? game wont last long from what I saw of it, it rather plain and not being able change camera angle is frustrating im just gonna dl a cracked copy if I decide to try the final, it not worth my 100$...

Ah very very funny.. I thought the EXACTLY opposite thing... all the way through.

[Crash]

GamersHell made a (fast) mirror: http://www.gamershell.com/download_13703.shtml

(Some are at 750 ko/s, i'm only at 200 ko/s due to my bro's dl ;))

edit: kriska >> do you ahve that in English, or in your language? cause it might be that your language is not fully translated yet :p

Thanks for the link!

It gave me a nice ~10min download at 800kb/s :D

[WNxOdiom]

well seems some people have a different opinion on the demo, but i could care less about the inventory set up and stuff..the game looks amazing and ill enjoy the final product for sure

[Gorkk]

and what annoyed me most is I went earth mastery and it locked me into fire only, thought this guy said we wouldnt get locked into a class ya right soon u choose mastery u cant mix and match it is worse than diablo 2 at least in that you could mix the elements not be stuck as fire only etc if you choose fire anyone else noticed this about the skills? game wont last long from what I saw of it, it rather plain and not being able change camera angle is frustrating im just gonna dl a cracked copy if I decide to try the final, it not worth my 100$...
This is exactly what had been said for the demo, as you're limited to level 6.

At level 2 you choose your first mastery. At level 8 you have the possibility to choose a second mastery. Additionnaly, there are special merchants in the game (further in the game, not in the demo) who allow you to buy back (with gold) skill points to put them elsewhere. What you have in the demo is a very tiny part of the game, really.

So, yes, Earth mastery is focused on fire. Storm, however, is focused on both electriciy and cold. Spirit is about necromancy and malediction. Nature is about nature spells (druidic). Then you have the rogue for poison damage. To mix things up, you need to get level 8 and get a second mastery. It has always been said that in the demo you could not choose two masteries (for the simple fact you choose the second one at level 8).

[Maji]

were lucky your not a game designer napoleon, you would make Sin look like a classic. gore would made it more enjoyable they ruined the goatmen from diablo1 by not having the kewl death affects that made them what they were, lack of affects what bored me it was to easy as well, also there is not elementary realism when it came to affects ice was not freezing them nor was fire burning them it was a quick flash affect then dispeared...

[Maji]

ah if that the case gorkk thankyou for that for second there i thought we couldnt mix and match that really put me of bying it, apart from my little complaints rest game is fine, i just wish it had some gore for deatha ffects to make it more real, and elemental realism why do they not have fire affects to kill as well etc?

[MaximusMarillious]

To me the game looks really good the graphics are awsome decales everything, but seeing as there are no effects when an opponant dies is rather pathetic we people even teenagers buy games for the gore effects not for pathetic effects such as shot with arrow fall down dead no blood( sliced with a sword fall down no cuts and all limbs attached) wtf is that (no realism in that) same goes with the effects spells have on opponants, when an ice spell hits someone there to be slowed and become either frozen or a blueish colour like in the diablo series and even in world of warcraft same goes with earth and fire effects if someone is to be hit by them they are to be engulfed in flames for a short while if they are to die by the firespell then they should burn up and turn to ashes not drop down dead like they have just had a heart attack and with ice they should freeze and explode into little ice particles, now with the inventry why on earth did you make it like guildwars invent having the items take up so much space that is rather stupid because that therefore stuffs up peoples questing/gameplay having to venture to the town and back just to empty there inventry to be able to pick up more/better items during a quest .

If all these things had of been added to this rpg it would of been a great game but seeing as they are not its just a decent game.
The diablo series will forever rule this game because of these small little facts that have not been added,same with world of warcraft, this game will either die or become very boring due to the facts that these visual effects have not been added, although i like the games graphics and gameplay these small little facts make me think twice about this game and i am slowly loosing love for it as are many people i know in real life and online.

This is just our oppinion by our i mean my friends and i, many others may feel this way also so please do not ridicule us or abuse us for our opinions for we will not do so to you.

[DaveyJJ]

I for one love it. Gameplay is fantastic and quite frentic, it looks fabulous, and surpasses D2 in so many little ways it's wonderful (always having a portal handy back to town, and the rebirth rocks). Way to go Iron Lore!

[j0ker]

demo was disapointment I dislike the inventory ... it not worth my 100$...
I actually found the demo very generous and enjoyable considering that it's free, and that it's over a month away from release. The graphics were beautiful even on my aging 9800 pro and I liked all the side quests.

The inventory system really reminded me of DII, but that isn't all that bad. I did like how money was more scarce and potions cost a reasonable amount (not like DII where you could go buy tons). I agree that some of the blood and guts affects were a little underwhelming. I was hoping that huge centaur dude would blow up corpse-explosion-style (anyone remember the DII Necromancer skill?).

The voice actors were decent and the character models believable, though at times a little bit too "nice." In the full version I hope we encounter some kneiving backstabbers, just to keep the plot interesting... :D

The skill set setup was great. The flexibility and growth of your character's talents is much more open and "realistic." There shouldn't be anymore of the DII style character types, where you either become a zeal-thorns-paladin or a bone-mage (or whatever).

My favorite part of this game, though, is fighting beings from actual mythology. Having a bona fide centaur chasing me down with arrows is just too cool, as is having armor clad skeletons burst out of the ground until you crumble them into a satisfying pile of bones.

[Gorkk]

Regarding elemental effects, there is some... When you use spell or weapon that have burning over time damage (like fire staff), as long as the ennemy doesn't die right away, he keeps burning while on the effect.

Same when your slowed (same for opponent), I'm sure you noticed it when fighting skeleton mages with ice spell / staff. When you're hit you're slowed and i'm pretty sure your color changes a little bit toward blue (not much, you don't become a Schtroumpf :))

Regarding effects when opponent dies: Maximus, do you really have played the demo? Cause often when they die, particularly when they die when you did near your max damage on a hit, and when you did lots of damage with a high strength, the monster fly through the screen, the distance varies. Try a Hunter with Destruction attack (first level, attack with spear that makes you run to the monster). Most of the time, particularly on low level mobs, you'll kill it right away and it'll fly throughout the screen.

When crows die, you see a cloud of feathers, and when they die by fire spells, you got a thing looking like a small ball of fire as well. Same with skeletons with their bones spread apart.

That's what I call effects.

So, sure, monsters corpses are not torn apart when they die, and there is not blood everywhere, but there are lots of effects on monster deaths.

[MaximusMarillious]

although some of thoughs effects are good, the ice effects from frost bolts from what ive seen do nothing but despate into a puff of blue smoke when they hit you that effect is rather pathetic, as for the monster flying through the screen that is good but if you hit a monster that hard blood would fly out and it would leave a trail of blood along the ground and in its place of landing, the reason being why i liked diablo1-2 so much is because of the effects it had spell wise and blood wise gore is what makes a game look really good having a good rpg where u slice and diec burn and freeze enemies just to c them fall down with no effects puts me and many of my friends online and offline off games, and as for this we wanted to make it less gore because of teenagers you go ask the teenagers of these days why they buy fighting games and rpgs, and they will answer for the action and for the gore thats the most reason why mortal combat was so successful and still is because of its gore lvl while playing and while doing a fatality.

The answer to your question is yes i have played the demo and from what ive seen effects wise besides the ones youve stated and the grass im not impressed 1 bit, Another example would be the pc and console game baulders gate when a monster is knocked back the parts that u hit then fly off when a monster is hit by a frost bolt and dies its freezes and explodes into ice particles when hit by fire it burns into ashes, when sliced by swords parts of its body fall off and blood comes out, only reason i play games is for the gameplay and gore.

[DaveyJJ]

Different strokes I guess, Maximus. I'm with Gorkk on this one and love the death animations. They're just enough to look cool without slowing me down for the next kill.

[Alkaidia]

and as for this we wanted to make it less gore because of teenagers you go ask the teenagers of these days why they buy fighting games and rpgs, and they will answer for the action and for the gore thats the most reason why mortal combat was so successful and still is because of its gore lvl while playing and while doing a fatality.
Not to be rude but that is DEFFINATELY not the reason that I buy games. Must be why I have never bought games like Mortal Combat. I admit that I was sort of dissapointed with the deaths but I haven't done anything that would make the monsters fly much at all, (I haven't even finished the demo yet). But I do think the skeleton deaths are cool and same with the birds. I also find that the monsters do look dead when they are dead, (they are never in positions that any normal living creature would be in), though I admit they look more like they died of poison or something. At the same time it doesn't really bother me at all.

The inventory I found slightly small but it is bigger then the Diablo 2 one. And they have said that your inventory will get bigger to the point were you can hold multiple sets at a time, (which is a lot). I really love the portal thing with the stone, too. Haven't died yet so I can't comment on the revive well things but they look ok. There seems to be an awful lot of them though, maybe they should only be in the towns and there should be more portals or something. Though I'm not sure how well that would work with the portal menu.

P.S. In my opinion the special effects in D2 weren't nearly so great as some people seem to think.

[SiCk4]

I completely agree, like a very big % of the hardcore HnS comunity, with Maximus.

But what i have to say is: Put the gore as an option inside the game (deactivated by default) so EVERYONE will enjoy.

It&#180;s not a impossible mission.
GORE ON + GORE OFF = nobody disappointed.

Not putting gore as a strategic marketing plan to sell more (mature rate) isn&#180;t wise. Action RPG and HnS games DEMAND gore.


[]&#180;s
SiCk4.

[MadWasp]

It´s not a impossible mission.
GORE ON + GORE OFF = nobody disappointed.

Not putting gore as a strategic marketing plan to sell more (mature rate) isn´t wise. Action RPG and HnS games DEMAND gore.


[]´s
SiCk4.




Yeah, gore is very important! I'm a blood party member too.

[MaximusMarillious]

I completely agree, like a very big % of the hardcore HnS comunity, with Maximus.

But what i have to say is: Put the gore as an option inside the game (deactivated by default) so EVERYONE will enjoy.

It´s not a impossible mission.
GORE ON + GORE OFF = nobody disappointed.

Not putting gore as a strategic marketing plan to sell more (mature rate) isn´t wise. Action RPG and HnS games DEMAND gore.


[]´s
SiCk4.

exactly how i feel, they have that option in first person shoot em ups, you can turn the gore on and off if you like, me i have the gore on full for i think it makes the game more enjoyable watching people burn and blow up.

[Maji]

ya it rather feels unrealistic atm, I can tell this wont be as replayable as diablo series simply because the maps are set, only mobs randomise and the effects looks half finished, we dont want knock back and getting rid of gore effects, here is prime example of a monster I loved to encounter in D1 acid beasts you would slay them and acid poured out and it would actually burn ya if stand in it or hit by it, goatmen had best way die too heads roll back with they blood coming out man I loved that it made it feel like I was right there in the game, titan quest to me feels like a unrealistic game made for children it has no realism just a lot of two bit effects with eye candy, they didnt consider how important realism is in rpgs and nefing the gore and the elementary effects was stupid, this is no were near the greatness that was the diablo series go back to when it first came out dont judge its graphic by the now judge it by the then it was the best and you know it how many characters did you play how many blood runs and other repetitive things did you do, this titan quest will bore you once you beat it few times wait and see...you have lost alot the rpg market just by missing these important factors, I wont be bying the realise ill just get a cracked copy later down track that if i can even be bothered with it.

[Maji]

tell ya what ironcore if u not even made gore animations how about u release the game few months later and put them in id wait for it all, if people want a half finished copy then let them have the early release but consider making another version for us more hardcore players...

[ruubster]

tell ya what ironcore if u not even made gore animations how about u release the game few months later and put them in id wait for it all, if people want a half finished copy then let them have the early release but consider making another version for us more hardcore players...

dude seriously shut up! the game isnt half-finished when there is no gore in it..... and please pay a little more respect to devs....

[DaveyJJ]

Action RPG and HnS games DEMAND gore.


Blanket statement. I've answered this elsewhere too but ... one more time ... stop posting your personal opinion as fact, or at least please make note that your statements are just your opinions.

No game demands gore ... the best games require things like excellent gameplay, etc. Gore as part of a game is required in some games, yes, like Doom3 or HL2 or Resident Evil 4 etc.

But to say that ALL of the types of games you mentioned DEMAND gore is silly. TQ is what TQ is ... if the developers wanted to focus on gameplay and story and graphics and mythology more than gore (or even adding the option of gore), they probably did it for a reason and there are other games you can play.

And to echo someone else's arguement for gore where they said something like "I'm glad you're not a game designer", I'm certain of the same thing. I'm glad that those who "need?" gore in their games also aren't game designers.

Back to the demo now.

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Later edit ... I hope that post didn't come across as too mean-spirited or harsh. My issue isn't with "gore" in video games, but the tone of certain posts that are arguing for "gore." We all have our opinions and are entitled to them. But when I see emphasized words like "DEMAND" and "require" and "must have" spoken as if they applied to every game it riles me up. IMHO, "action-RPG" means just that ... elements of action (which of themselves do not require violence or gore) and elements of role playing (which again, do not require of themselves, violence or gore). There are hundreds (thousands?) of video games made each year for a wide range of gamers ... find gore if you need in another game but don't state that game XYZ demands anything except what it is.

And from a developers standpoint, there are probably many valid reasons "gore" wasn't included in a specific title (not specific here to TQ). Maybe it's a ratings thing; maybe there was too much additional modeling and programming and file size or time constraints to have to render both a non-gore and a gore animation sequence; maybe the developers don't like gore just for gore's sake; etc.

The game is what it is ... yes, there are a few bugs that everyone might agree need fixing (camera angle, inventory auotmatically fitting stuff better etc), but gore isn't one of the critical ones, for this type of game. IMHO, naturally.

[Maji]

I dont respect companys who make decisions without asking the public first, lol why do you think diablo series went so well most the included features were customers ideas, ironcore new company has to urn our respect we dont just give it, I have right to say my opinion as you have right to kiss ass if you choose too...

As for rpgs that are hack and slash name one game that is well known rpg that didnt have any gore or realistic animation death effects that was worth playing? you will have trouble with this cause the good ones had realism/gore and proper animation death effects. your arguement is flawed sick4 was right he based it on history you based it on nothing but your opinion, you think games with the extras spoke above didnt have gameplay and story as well? lol this game is a rip off of diablo and is the softcore version of the great game diablo series was with better eye candy.

As sick4 stated when u play hns games there is expected some type of gore as the very nature of the game is about killing to level and the killing includes the animations, it looks half finished to me since it missing these effects and people who are like us are much larger community than those like you.

[SiCk4]

Blanket statement. I've answered this elsewhere too but ... one more time ... stop posting your personal opinion as fact, or at least please make note that your statements are just your opinions.

Take it easy dude. That was MY post. Isn't a little obvious this is MY OPINION?


No game demands gore...

"Blanket statement. I've answered this elsewhere too but ... one more time ... stop posting your personal opinion as fact" oooooops... :p


But to say that ALL of the types of games you mentioned DEMAND gore is silly.
WOW how sensationalist! I remember just saying ARPG and HnS.
Some examples to refresh your memory:
*Baldurs Gate series
*NWN
*Diablo series
*Sacred

Could you please help me to remember if there was gore or gore options on these little titles? lol



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[Maji]

lol even darkstone had gore, there another think it called darkstone and oh yeah fallout series had gore how kewl was that :)... lol sick4 he dont get it, it part of the gene

[SiCk4]

lol even darkstone had gore, there another think it called darkstone and oh yeah fallout series had gore how kewl was that :)... lol sick4 he dont get it, it part of the gene

Man... you've just mention the masterpiece FALLOUT!!!!
:D :D :D
I'm just wondering when will Bethesda (tes series) release FALLOUT3 for us.

Sorry for the off-topic, hmmmm let me correct:
- Guys, i'm sure FALLOUT3 will have gore or gore option on it! LOL

Now talking serious, in TQ i just want the option to enjoy more the game. And i'm sure a few millions of players feel the same.



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edit: let's create a POLL on this forum about this subject? Since what we're requesting is just to add an option, i think almost everyone will agree! =D

[Gorkk]

here is prime example of a monster I loved to encounter in D1 acid beasts you would slay them and acid poured out and it would actually burn ya if stand in it or hit by it, goatmen had best way die too heads roll back with they blood coming out man I loved that it made it feel like I was right there in the game
Oh, you mean exactly how the zombies die? When they die there's a poison cloud that poison you if you're near.

About gore option: well, with the US rules, with the option to enable gore, it would no longer be rated Teen now. That's the very reason for which Sacred had 3 English versions: the original International version, with gore enabled, the Australia version with gore disabled but you could enable, and the US version, with gore disabled and you couldn't enable (well you could hacking the game). And I really believe Ascaron won't do 3 English versions again for Sacred 2.

The thing is, it's really not that needed in TQ imho. As soon as you'd have some elemental damage (happen soon with bonus on weapons), you wouldn't really notice anyway if there were blood, except looking at the corpses after the fight. Don't you play a H&S for the rythm and keeping killing mobs? It seems you play a H&S to enjoy staring at dead corpses with lots of blood around. Maybe what you need is only watching gore movies then :p

And as said previously, a game with no gore is not a half-finished game... Particularly when it's a game that can really go without gore :rolleyes:

[Napoleon]

were lucky your not a game designer napoleon,
If I was a designer, and I could create my own game. Then I think I would have made... yes Titan Quest. Nearly everything in TQ matches with my personal ideas.
So no.. I don't TOTALLY agree with all gamers, but who does that? I guess Titan Quest cover most of the wishes. But it's true.. if you can't play without blood, then TQ is not a game for you. It's fine.. Personally I can't play without dandilions, so I was very happy to see the nice-looking dandilions.



I dont respect companys who make decisions without asking the public first, lol why do you think diablo series went so well most the included features were customers ideas, ironcore new company has to urn our respect we dont just give it, I have right to say my opinion as you have right to kiss ass if you choose too...

I actually decided to be polite in this forum; therefore I will just call you a carrot.
Look at the forums.. 4 different THQ/IRONLORE employees are answering questions, and listening to problems. Even though only 100 members have registered in these forums.

This game dosn't fleet in violence and blood - no - but that's not the same as Ironlore dosn't give a s*** for public.
1) Not all public care for blood. (I don't care at all.. and my friends don't as well).
2) Ironlore thinks they can sell more, if they remove blood. They surely discussed it, and they made a conclusion. Don't say that Ironlore is too arrogant and ignorant to make decisions

But okay, you are one of the unlucky, who cannot play without blood. Sad for you- IMO you are missing a very cool game. But I don't think there is anything you can do about it, since it is too late to make Ironlore change their mind.
Therefore I ask you to stop posting aggressive posts against Ironlore. You havn't brought the game, and you hate the game... then forget this game, and go back and play your own bloody games.

[SiCk4]

Come on guys, stop attacking each other.

I'll make a question for the "no gore" defenders:
- What do you think if IRONLORE adds the gore OPTION on the game (that should be deactivated by default)? Is that ok, yes or not? If not, why?


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[Tjukkie]

this used to be such a nice topic :(

now it's all drama :(

[Arangar]

Offcourse everybody would like an OPTION on gore (since everybody wins), but lets face it, thats not gonna happen for the final version anymore. And maybe, if you yell really hard, you might get it in a patch, but i doubt it. No point in discussing it anymore...

[Napoleon]

Offcourse everybody would like an OPTION on gore (since everybody wins), but lets face it, thats not gonna happen for the final version anymore. And maybe, if you yell really hard, you might get it in a patch, but i doubt it. No point in discussing it anymore...
/signed

An option could be fine.

[DaveyJJ]

Now talking serious, in TQ i just want the option to enjoy more the game. And i'm sure a few millions of players feel the same.

Then ask people politely rather than using terms like "DEMAND" and "must have" etc. People sound like my four year old when they do that.

[SiCk4]

Then ask people politely rather than using terms like "DEMAND" and "must have" etc. People sound like my four year old when they do that.

First - I'm not asking you. I'm asking the dev's if would be possible to have the option. If you were (and now i'm sure you arent) a hardcore HnS gamer you could easily understand my point here.

Second - if you call this "4 year old kids discussion/argues" you already lost the right of argue.

.: If you're worried about your kids playing this game with gore activated or you dont like gore realism at all, just turn the option off.

AGAIN, HnS games DEMAND the gore option.
Some of you will understand my point, others wont.


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[SiCk4]

Offcourse everybody would like an OPTION on gore (since everybody wins), but lets face it, thats not gonna happen for the final version anymore. And maybe, if you yell really hard, you might get it in a patch, but i doubt it. No point in discussing it anymore...

It's not over until it's over.
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[Gorkk]

First - I'm not asking you. I'm asking the dev's if would be possible to have the option. If you were (and now i'm sure you arent) a hardcore HnS gamer you could easily understand my point here.

Second - if you call this "4 year old kids discussion/argues" you already lost the right of argue.

.: If you're worried about your kids playing this game with gore activated or you dont like gore realism at all, just turn the option off.

AGAIN, HnS games DEMAND the gore option.
Some of you will understand my point, others wont.
Well, from your (you as "people asking for gore") words, you were not asking for an option for gore, but demanding (and still are) gore in the game, saying the game would be half finished without gore.

Second, yes, DEMANDING gore and saying the game is half finished without it, instead of politely asking for an option to enable gore, and create a poll to show how many people would support the idea makes your camp sound childish. Telling him he lost the right of argue for saying this makes it look even more childish btw.

Ok, so you say HnS games DEMAND the gore option. Who says that? You? Ok, you're what? Three on this board? Big deal, don't you think? Oh right, you represent the HardCore gamers, right? At least what YOU call HardCore gamers (I'd guess it's people calling themselves hardcore gamers, as most of the time, true hardcore gamers don't go aorund bragging about them being hardcore gamers, and according to people pretending to be hardcore gamers in D2, any hardcore gamer was using bots and hacks extensively, or they weren't hardcore gamers. Imho, those aren't gamers any longer at all, just hardcore kids who'd need to grow up and get some maturity ;), and if we lose those players on TQ because there's no gore, so be it :p). By the way, what do YOU call hardcore gamers? (as there's too many different meaning the term is used nowadays)

Some will understand you, others won't. Hum... Gore addicts who say that H&S games demand gore, without anything to support that except them saying it will understand you, sure. How about truely explaining why H&S demand gore? How about scientificaly showing that H&S fans in their majority demand gore in H&S games? As it surely seems that the majority of H&S games truely don't think that the genre demand gore. Sure, most of them would like to have an option to enable gore, but could live without it, and truely enjoy the game. But imho the majority of H&S players truely don't care at all about gore.


Now it's fun how you guys on one hand say things like "this game DEMAND gore", "this game REQUIRE gore", "without gore this game is half finished", and then pretend that you're only politely asking the devs for an option to enable gore, and if we say you look childish when saying this (while it sounds really like "bouh hou, I don't have gore in this game and I'm a gore addict kiddy, and although the game is really great and I would not even notice gore missing after few hours playing, I won't play the game because there's not blood every where and bodys torn apart", which is really kiddish), you say we lost the right to argue... hum, another things making you childish, but hey, I surely lost the right to argue in your opinion as well :D

[eoph]

one of the most successful hack and slash games for console, dynasty warriors has no gore.

[Maji]

dont even know the game console is junky now anyway, maybe when you were kid now it realism we want, why cant they make some games for older people always being toned down now for kids, when half time kids just play older peoples games anyway it better to know the hard truth than be ignorant to it, people think they are protecting there kids from voilence all your doing is keeping them ignorant to what voilence is let them decide themself same with everything else in this controled world...

[MaximusMarillious]

All very valid points.

but to your last post gork your calling sick4 childish, to me it seems your the childish one because from what ive read at your post your having a cheap crack at him.

Such examples of this are- (I'd guess it's people calling themselves hardcore gamers, as most of the time, true hardcore gamers don't go aorund bragging about them being hardcore gamers, and according to people pretending to be hardcore gamers in D2, any hardcore gamer was using bots and hacks extensively, or they weren't hardcore gamers. Imho, those aren't gamers any longer at all, just hardcore kids who'd need to grow up and get some maturity , and if we lose those players on TQ because there's no gore, so be it ).

while it sounds really like "bouh hou, I don't have gore in this game and I'm a gore addict kiddy, and although the game is really great and I would not even notice gore missing after few hours playing, I won't play the game because there's not blood every where and bodys torn apart", which is really kiddish),

now i myself do not think its good to try have cheap cracks at people over the internet, to me this thread should not of turned into a flaming thread every one in here is entitled to their own opinions, they do not deserve people such as you and many others on this thread flaming them and posting such childish posts like your last one dissing them.

As for sick4 yes he has typed DEMAND GORE, gut also if you go back and read his posts he has asked if an option to turn gore on and off like in many other games could be added.

Now as for the post saying this game would not be TEEN orintated, look at the average age of a teenage player its ranging from 14- god knows how old, look at the warcraft 3 series its rated 12+ and what does that game have in it blood and abit of gore, gore isnt violence hte violence in the game is the fighting hacking up monsters and shit, that is what would make a person violent but to get violent irl from agame youd have to be a rather pathetic person to alow a game to control your emotions irl, people saying by dumbing down the gore they are dumbing down the violence is aload of shit it doesnt dumb it down one bit, most games get by on violence/ with gore others without but very rarely.

But plz if your going to post here post something constructive dont have cheap cracks at people when as most of you doing so have also said so yourselves everyones entitled to their own opinion, so therefore they do not deserve someone such as thoughs dissing them.

[SiCk4]

Well, from your (you as "people asking for gore") words, you were not asking for an option for gore, but demanding (and still are) gore in the game, saying the game would be half finished without gore.

Gore in the game it's different than Gore Option in the game. As a defender of the REALISM factor to leverate the fun i'll repeat: HnS demands gore option (it's obvious that this only apply to the % of gamers that think like me). Look the poll and you i'll see the results.


Second, yes, DEMANDING gore and saying the game is half finished without it, instead of politely asking for an option to enable gore, and create a poll to show how many people would support the idea makes your camp sound childish. Telling him he lost the right of argue for saying this makes it look even more childish btw.

Hmm, the Right to argue and discuss something, create/vote in Polls etc is all childish things. Well, i can live with this Old one. :cool:

Quite funny that everytime you can't argue or discuss something you just use the word "childish". Dude, you're quite old to participate of gamers forum. And i got only 23.


Ok, so you say HnS games DEMAND the gore option. Who says that? You? Ok, you're what? Three on this board? Big deal, don't you think?

3 > 1 - OWNED! :D
BTW: Ask V about how many gamers already asked it to IL, or better, look the poll results.


Oh right, you represent the HardCore gamers, right? At least what YOU call HardCore gamers...

I can speak for myself...
*Help community making specific char builds (arreat summit) / strats/maps (for rts);
* A HardCore Gamer is the person who dedicate a lot of efforts not only playing/finishing the game for hours and hours, but helping it, when possible, to not became obsolete.

-> And yes, all those FAQ's that you use to finish your games, were made by HardCore gamers. :D


Some will understand you, others won't. Hum... Gore addicts who say that H&S games demand gore, without anything to support that except them saying it will understand you, sure.

There's nothing to argue with... I can only say:
And who supports you, when you say that GORE (as a realism factor) isn't important at all? See, it's pointless to discuss.


How about truely explaining why H&S demand gore? How about scientificaly showing that H&S fans in their majority demand gore in H&S games?

My argues on this is based on ALL the PAST great HnS RPG games for PC, again some examples to refresh your ooooold memory, granpa:
-Diablo
-Diablo 2
-Sacred
-Sacred Underworld
-Dungeon Siege
-Dungeon Siege 2

*Believe me... Diablo 3 (if blizz lauch someday), DS2 expansion pack and Sacred 2 WILL have the gore option.
Well, now let's see what your argues are based on.


Now it's fun how you guys on one hand say things like "this game DEMAND gore", "this game REQUIRE gore", "without gore this game is half finished", and then pretend that you're only politely asking the devs for an option to enable gore, and if we say you look childish when saying this (while it sounds really like "bouh hou, I don't have gore in this game and I'm a gore addict kiddy, and although the game is really great and I would not even notice gore missing after few hours playing, I won't play the game because there's not blood every where and bodys torn apart", which is really kiddish), you say we lost the right to argue... hum, another things making you childish, but hey, I surely lost the right to argue in your opinion as well :D

Again, GORE <> GORE OPTION.
It can sound like this to you, but for us sounds like: "I used to have the GORE and GORE OPTION in ALL of the best HnS Gamers for PC of GAME HISTORY and this factor help me to get more inside the game since it'll make the gameplay fells more realistic, so why IronLore cant implement it for us?"

Dude, it appears you're taking this too serious and personal. Take it easy, relax man!



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[Napoleon]

I get tired of reading those arguments about: We are the defenders of realism.
Blood is not the factor, which tells realism from fantasy. It's just an other little detail like dandilion, freckles or nails.

Man, I wish you could try just to play the game and notice all the nice details and environment. If you notice all the good things, then you might forget about the little detail blood.
But of course if you only choose to look for something which is missing, then you might find this game lame.

[SiCk4]

I get tired of reading those arguments about: We are the defenders of realism.

When you participate on a public forum, there will be ideas and houghts you'll agree, disagree, get tired of, became irritade etc... Don't worry, public foruns are just like that.


Man, I wish you could try just to play the game and notice all the nice details and environment. If you notice all the good things, then you might forget about the little detail blood.

I already played the demo for a lot of hours (and i'm still playing. And it's a very nice and fun game! When you say blood as detail, we just see blood as improving realism on the game. People will find it important, others not.


But of course if you only choose to look for something which is missing, then you might find this game lame.

Dude, I just asked the dev's to put the option. The answer was: NO. Now ÃÂ*'m looking for other details and then, give my feedback. If i already think that other aspects as good enought (gameplay, gfx etc) why should I request/discuss something that's already ok for me???????????????

And wrong, the game isn't lame and I never say that. It's a very good game and i'll buy it for sure. I'm just trying to make the dev's hear my opinions and have some answers, what's the matter with that? Isn't the DEMO/OpenBetas for this??? :confused:

If tomorrow i find other thing that i dont like and i think it's, somehow, important on the game... be sure, i'll post my feedback and request it!

I really don't know why this is already been discussed, since the final word was already gave by dev's.


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[Napoleon]

Ya this post is also going to be final post about the blood-discusion.

SiCk4, you were confused abuot my post, but it wasn't dedicated for you. You are one of the good guys *smirking*, or almost ;).

Generally I do not believe Blood is that important... for anyone.
Some people (I'm definitely not thinking at Maji) exaggerate the effects of blood, and make themself believe that this game is lame without blood. Belief moves mountains...But as I said...basically blood is just a little detail.

[Alkaidia]

I really don't know why this is already been discussed, since the final word was already gave by dev's.
If you want the truth the final word was given about a month ago. So I'm not sure why you guys, (well I guess it was originally magi), brought it up at all. Especially since it is completely off-topic in this thread and there was already another thread about it when it was started in this thread.

In my opinion this thread should be closed.

Alkaidia

[koll]

Well i've played the demo alot so far and imo the early lvl stuff just doesnt compare to d2...example...early spells,in d2 even the early lvl fireballs had a satisfying fell of destruction to them..for some reason i just don't feel it in tq. lvl 6 d2 barb got shout,a thunderous sonic boom sent shockwaves outward from your char and you knew you had used an ability.lvl 6 in tq you get a summoned totem that takes 5 sec to feel the benifits and it can be destroyed just as fast.and if you leave the area you loose the benifit all together?@#%^...and the horn one you get...well i just kinda laugh at it,i mean it's an ok ability but it just seems kinda kidish to me....>blowes a horn to stun his enemies!{looks arround to make sure his freinds didn't see him do it}..lmao.Don't get me wrong i like the demo and i "pray to the gods" that the full game will be great because i'm playing d2 again for the hundredth time...(wow!!! the replayability of d2 is nothing short of astonishing...my god)..and it would be great for a game to mirror that kind of experience.I sure hope it will.

[koll]

Also where is the breakables?? Half the fun in hns games for me is breaking and looting all the stuff in the areas.I hope the demo was just stripped or something and the finished copy will have more in it.Anyone else feel the same way as me?

[SiCk4]

Hi Koll, what do you mean by "breaking the stuff in the areas"? I just didnt get what do you mean.

About special effects (spell) in demo, i complain more about ice effects since i got hitted by ice shot, i want to see my avatar slowed down or freezed, this (for me) elevates realism (so, more fun).

Fire effects could be i little more realistic too, like body burn.


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[MaximusMarillious]

sick4 if you really played diablo and diablo2 you would know what he was talking about, all the crates and barrels in the area could be smashed and now and then either an item or gold would fall out and it also would have weapon racks where if by chance you could get a good item or just a normal weapon.

[Arangar]

Yeah, they are fun the first time, but the second time no body smashed them anymore because there's only crap in them.

[koll]

Yeah, they are fun the first time, but the second time no body smashed them anymore because there's only crap in them.
Yes and no,sometimes i would smash stuff just to destroy a room,the tombs is a good example.It just seemes to add another layer of realism and fun to me.not that i smashed every vase every time but that they were there if you wanted to tear stuff up,and chests,weapon racks,coffins..and so on if you wanted to loot them. and where the heck is the stash??hard to believe there is no stash.I hope they add it for retail version.

[Arangar]

I agree that it was nice it was there, its just fun too see ur barbarian kick those barrels into pieces.
All in all, the demo was very cool but it just missed that extra touch that makes diablo so good and replayable, i sure hope the final version can bring us that.

[SiCk4]

sick4 if you really played diablo and diablo2 you would know what he was talking about...

You´re judging if i play/or not a game because i didnt understood what he meant with a term... lol

And yes, you´re right, i didnt played those games, a STILL play them (yes, both).

And i think the "break stuff" here is so minor, that i dont really care about. Cool Special effects or Gore realism are so much more important (imo) than these things...


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[koll]

I agree that it was nice it was there, its just fun too see ur barbarian kick those barrels into pieces.
All in all, the demo was very cool but it just missed that extra touch that makes diablo so good and replayable, i sure hope the final version can bring us that.
I agree 100% Arangar.guess we're all hoping that extra layer of depth will be there once it's released.

[MaximusMarillious]

very very doubtful koll, but who knows maybe for once in the distance future after its release they will listen to the community and put them in with a patch.