Game not optimized for NVIDIA

[veselu]

O right, i've bought the game today from store. I have a Geforce 6600 GTF from Gigabyte. I have 1 GB DDRAM 3200 from PQI Extreme Edition and a P4 3.0E GHz.

I am kind of happy with my PC cause it's pretty good for latest games. So i installed the game , all run smootly. Now when i got in the game i set the resolution to 1024x768 and all details on high, without AA and VS.

Well i created a character and got to play. When I reached Helos and walked a bit in the city my framerate dropped like hell (10 fps with Fraps). Same thing happened when I reached the area where i needed to kill a Satyr Shaman for the first main quest. What is the matter with this game?
The game reaches to be unplayable on such a video card. It's a real mess. I don't want to buy another card cause this is very good (in F.E.A.R. i never met such framedrops with all details on maximum) and let's be serious this game doesn't have that graphic.

So developers fix your game, cause it's too lame.
The gameplay is good but the performance really sucks.

And by the way, a friend of mine tested the game on an ATI x700pro(far more weak than my video card) and in the same situations as mine the framerate never dropped. And you say in your logo's "NVIDIA , ... meant to be played". Be serious, revise your sponsors.

[Gorkk]

It seems there are issues with specificaly the 6600 (and since demo). I was hoping they could fix this for retail but they don't seem to have figured out the cause yet. I'd think it's a bad support in the card for one of the DirectX 9.0c features used in the game.

Thing is with the demo, people with 6400 and lesser computers had the game run better than people with 6600 and better computers ;)

Edit: Best thing to do would to get your exact specs, logs from DirectX and so on and send them to support for them to figure the issue out, and fix it with the first patch (guys at Iron Lore said they will be on alert just after release to get all those bugs and get them fixed asap, with a first patch in less than 2 months)

[4th Wiseman]

Keep in mind, it is tough to get any pc game to work with all the possible hardware configurations that are out there right out of the box. But do as Gorkk said and I am sure IL will get it resolved as quickly as they can.

[Srikandi]

Running Fraps will also hurt your performance :/

[veselu]

Running Fraps will also hurt your performance :/

I ran the game without fraps and with fraps and same thing

A friend of mine wants to buy the game(he has a FX5200) but the only way that the game could run on his computer is to disable shadows which is not possible :(


It seems there are issues with specificaly the 6600 (and since demo). I was hoping they could fix this for retail but they don't seem to have figured out the cause yet. I'd think it's a bad support in the card for one of the DirectX 9.0c features used in the game.

Thing is with the demo, people with 6400 and lesser computers had the game run better than people with 6600 and better computers ;)

Edit: Best thing to do would to get your exact specs, logs from DirectX and so on and send them to support for them to figure the issue out, and fix it with the first patch (guys at Iron Lore said they will be on alert just after release to get all those bugs and get them fixed asap, with a first patch in less than 2 months)

ok, thanks for the idea.

[sanchan91]

I hate to say it, but 1 gig of ram really is not going to cut it with a 6600. Also to note, is that you can not generalize that the game is 'not optimized for NVIDIA' because you own an older card.

The 6600 series has a problem with texture memory, and tends to try to share it with the system, regardless of its onboard memory. As such, the newest drivers help this problem, but does not cure it.

The probable solution is to find out if your computer is swapping while playing TQ. If you notice mass HD access and slowdows, this is probably the case.

Turning the texture detail down will help the problem.

Also, comparing this game to Doom 3, or Half-life 2 is not much of a comparison. The sheer amount of textures used per screen of TQ is at least 2x more than Doom 3 or HL2, or FEAR for that matter. The polygon count is more as well, as each and every thing is detailed to the extreme.

In the end, the game runs amazingly well for the amount of detail that exists.

[Icarus]

Does anybody take those Nvidia stamps seriously? I have 1GB of RAM, a 2.2Ghz Athlon Processor, and a Radeon x800 Pro, and I have not these problems. The only slowdown I've seen occurs when entering or exiting caves; it's obviously because of the transparency, and it isn't very bad. So, in response to your title:

Guess not. :p

[Roland]

Try this Nvidia Tweek...

I used it when I was running Oblivion on my 6600GT and it did wonders!

Pretty simple adjustment just be sure to READ every step and you should be fine.

Let us know if it helps you :)

Regards,

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This section is a Quote...not my wording or instructions. Proceed at your own risk! But I can tell you that I did it and it worked for me :) Roland

NVIDIA card Coolbits tweak

This is one of the greatest driver tweaks I have ever seen. At first, I couldn't believe my results.

But the benchmarks don't lie; I nearly doubled my framerates after applying this tweak.
There is no
noticeable drop in quality and no apparent side effects. I encourage everyone to apply this tweak.

It really is pretty unbelievable. Steps:

1. Download and install the latest NVIDIA ForceWare drivers.

2. Download and install the "Coolbits" registry tweak:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815

(To install, unzip then double-click the .reg file to apply the registry mod)

3. Go to Control Panel -> Display -> Settings tab -> Advanced -> GeForce XXXX (your card model)

4. Expand "Performance & Quality Settings"

5. Click on "Additional Direct3D Settings"

6. Change "Max Frames to render ahead" from 3 to 0.

7. Click "Apply" then "OK" to exit the settings page.

Run TQ and look a the difference...it should be substantial, especially with older cards.

Good Luck!

[Roland]

O right, i've bought the game today from store. I have a Geforce 6600 GTF from Gigabyte. I have 1 GB DDRAM 3200 from PQI Extreme Edition and a P4 3.0E GHz.

I am kind of happy with my PC cause it's pretty good for latest games. So i installed the game , all run smootly. Now when i got in the game i set the resolution to 1024x768 and all details on high, without AA and VS.

Well i created a character and got to play. When I reached Helos and walked a bit in the city my framerate dropped like hell (10 fps with Fraps). Same thing happened when I reached the area where i needed to kill a Satyr Shaman for the first main quest. What is the matter with this game?
The game reaches to be unplayable on such a video card. It's a real mess. I don't want to buy another card cause this is very good (in F.E.A.R. i never met such framedrops with all details on maximum) and let's be serious this game doesn't have that graphic.

So developers fix your game, cause it's too lame.
The gameplay is good but the performance really sucks.

And by the way, a friend of mine tested the game on an ATI x700pro(far more weak than my video card) and in the same situations as mine the framerate never dropped. And you say in your logo's "NVIDIA , ... meant to be played". Be serious, revise your sponsors.

I have a 7800GS card that runs TQ perfectly...so the logo is valid. It's just that the 6600 card is pretty low (now) on the performance charts, I know I had one ;)

Try the tweek and let me know if it helps you any!

Also, it helps to change your Video Options to Medium and AA Off

Good Luck!

[marius_tabac]

so i have the same problem with the game it runs very very badly. My sistem is: proc: athlon 64 3000+
ram: 1 GB cl 2.5
video: Geforce 6600GT TDH Leadtek (500/1000 core/memory) PCI-E
hdd: WD 200G sata 2.0
sound: Audigy 4 value.
come on i just updated my video card bios to the latest bios version , installed the latest drivers from nvidia for my video cand mainboard. The sistem is running very smoothly but TQ is running like crap. Tested on the same sistem but with an Radeon x700Pro wich with 5% lower than my GF and the game was running a lot better. So please optimize your game for NVIDIA users and just leave the crap with 6600 GT isssues because in all the benchmarks is running great only in TQ and Oblivion is not... so please just try to fix ans optimize the problem and another thing ... give the ppl more video options so that they can set some shadows off, some lights, some shaders 1.4, 2.0 3.0.... come on don't just limit the settings. And also with that crap options.txt from user my documents ... my games... TQ you can see form the distance that the game is in a beta form... just do something with the game and optimize the graphics and introduce more options for details, lights , shadows, particles, shaders....
Oh and another thing lose that GOLD hud from the game wtf man why is this obsession with yellow and gold huds.... Just put something serios a Gray or something or introduce another options in video like "hud color" ....
Hope the developers will listen to our demands and introduce in the next patch because they need us to buy games and we need them to offer good games.
Another thing is the delay that is introduced when teleporting, come on remove that sh..t fade from black because that delay is annoing. We need to move fast in the game like diablo..
And another thing when u run the carater start slowly and then he runs.. come on we don't have the time to play here and to get annoyed by details like that .. remove this also....
Just make the game great by listening to gamers opinions...

[frankenparrot]

Welcome to the forum!

And this is one long opinion. I will admit, you are the first to come up with some of those "suggestions". Best of luck...:)

[veselu]

You sad it better than me. TQ is a mockery BETA released to make money fast from it's initial release and than from it's expansions that will follow to correct this BETA. Blizzard and Diablo 3 where are you ?

[marius_tabac]

Welcome to the forum!

And this is one long opinion. I will admit, you are the first to come up with some of those "suggestions". Best of luck...:)

so are bad sugestions ? i think not ;)

[rulzmaker]

i wonder.. where have you bought the game from the store veselu if the game isn't released yet ?

[veselu]

mate it's released from 26 June, yesterday, if you don't know lol

[frankenparrot]

As long as they are meant to be discussed and not expected, there are no bad suggestions. There have been many people who wanted the camera rotation.

Some of your suggestions are only personnal opinion. Personnaly, I thought the one about a character's running pattern a bit much. The physics engine for TQ is excellent.

As for Veselu...your problems are strangely consistent with the pirated copy. If TQ were just to be released to make money, they would have released the game about 8 months ago...when it was first scheduled to come out. Personnally, I find your argument to be without fact. At least Marius, in a straightforward way, put his ideas and wants into semi-tactful approach.

Hope your games work out...:)

[veselu]

As long as they are meant to be discussed and not expected, there are no bad suggestions. There have been many people who wanted the camera rotation.

Some of your suggestions are only personnal opinion. Personnaly, I thought the one about a character's running pattern a bit much. The physics engine for TQ is excellent.

As for Veselu...your problems are strangely consistent with the pirated copy. If TQ were just to be released to make money, they would have released the game about 8 months ago...when it was first scheduled to come out. Personnally, I find your argument to be without fact. At least Marius, in a straightforward way, put his ideas and wants into semi-tactful approach.

Hope your games work out...:)

What do you mean by pirated copy? Why can't you see that all people have these problems ?
At least people with 6xxx cards. I just gathered enough money to buy my 6600 GT card for TQ and now i see that i can't play it normally, with a decent resolution and a smooth play. With what am I wrong in this ? Why is any other game working perfectly on this card and TQ runs like sh*t?

[frankenparrot]

And...I knew you where going to say something about pirated copy. Nope, I was just wondering. I made no accusations what-so-ever. When you put it that way about having problems with a specific card, that is better. As for the 6600 GT card, my condolances. That was a problem that many people who played the demo had some problems with. Not everyone of course, but a lot of people.

When you type something like...
"TQ is a mockery BETA released to make money fast from it's initial release and than from it's expansions that will follow to correct this BETA. Blizzard and Diablo 3 where are you?"
Where does that explain your problem. Frustration aside, I can see that anticipation of a game tilts people into have to have perfectly. I am the same way.

[sanchan91]

Thread is lost, please lock.

[marius_tabac]

go see my benchmark that i posted here http://www.titanquest.net/questions-developers/1194-titan-quest-benchmark.html

and let's us discuss issues and concret things.

[CaptainIglo]

Well, at the beginning I too seem to get around 50 frames. But when you play for about 1 hour and enter a big city like Athens, the framrate drops to 3-10 fames.

Sounds like a memory leak i quess.

[rulzmaker]

mate it's released from 26 June, yesterday, if you don't know lol
Released in the US.. not in Europe..

[Max]

We're investigating possible compatibility issues with the 6600. In addition the high settings are probably not appropriate for this hardware (despite what Titan Quest may think).

Max

[rulzmaker]

dear max.. the game works perfectly if the game copy is an original one.. if it is a pirated copy it has issues..

[Polemidas]

seriously rulzmaker quite that BS. There are problems, i have bought a copy and my bother has, mine works his crashes constantly. mine, exactly like alot of people are having tons of slowdowns. now they are hard at work on these issues and i appreciate that completely but stop saying its only people with the pirated copy for gods sake.

[veselu]

dear max.. the game works perfectly if the game copy is an original one.. if it is a pirated copy it has issues..

are you sure of what are you saying? think again before posting rubish.

[marius_tabac]

and the porblem was not with crashes because that we all have... the problem was with nvidia cards especially 6600.... so...

[Lars]

I have a 6600 and its a horror. I will bring it back to the store and try to get my money back. Sad!

[MagrothJ]

I've got a 6600 PCIe and a 3.6 Ghz P4 with 2Gb of DDR2 ram and the game runs horribly when more stuff happens on the screen. Most noticeable when fire is anywhere on the screen but it happens now and then otherwise too. With reading through this thread and seeing the problems with the 6600 I guess I'm lucky that I've got a bit higher end comp or I would probably have much more problem with TQ than I have now. I hope it gets fixed in a later patch.

[Misdirection]

Can I return this crappy game to the store and get my money back? It's already open, or am I SoL?

[Fyren]

dear max.. the game works perfectly if the game copy is an original one.. if it is a pirated copy it has issues..

What a bunch of rubbish

I have the reatil and this game runs in the crapper during some aprts of the game.

Like the middle of temples and tombs, I get 2 fps but in the west and east wings I get constant >40.

This game has some serious engine issues or just dosn't like nvidia

x2-4200
7800 gt
2 gig

[Deznaj]

Thank god I didn't rush out and buy this game! I have a ASUS 7900 GTX, could you imagine that this Diablo 2 rip-off wouldn't work on that??? Pathetic...

What's the matter with these mediocre studios? Can't they bring out a working game anymore? I had tons of problems with games like Beyond Divinity. "Wait for the patch" "Wait for the next patch" "We won't make patches anymore"... If you can't cook properly, get out of the kitchen! I'll just stick to Oblivion 'till this game is in the 5 euro bin with WORKING patches out!

[Fluke]

We're investigating possible compatibility issues with the 6600. In addition the high settings are probably not appropriate for this hardware (despite what Titan Quest may think).

Max

What about 7600 then? The game slows down immensely for me as well throughout the game. As you know it's crashing for me too on nVidia..I don't even have AA on but everything else is High...When the fog comes it slows down and when day changes to night it slows down too.


dear max.. the game works perfectly if the game copy is an original one.. if it is a pirated copy it has issues..

Mine is the legit game and it's crashing left and right. You have no clue what you are talking about. Don't get pirated copies mixed up with legit customers. Calling everyone a thief only makes you look like the idiot.

[Scarab]

yeah, i can confirm that nvidia performance drops for a 6800GT
occure random, but especially at night and dungeon entrances
[esc] and changing one of the video options fixes this, but i would need to esc every 2 minutes if i would like to kill every perf.drop ^^

[Aldrian]

6600GT here, PCI-express. Something is up with the compatibility, it's like it doesn't even matter if I tweak my system, put all settings on low, or put them all on max, it's still "laggy" and "studdery" as hell. Going to 1024 resolution helps a bit, but not even close to how a game such as this should(?) run with those settings.

There's also some weird loading times. Like if I'm out hunting and use a town portal sometimes it takes 10 seconds and sometimes it takes 1minute, going from basically the same places.

Dungeon entrances are laggy, but I can live with that cause it's more obvious why it slows up then, the outdoors--> dungeon transitions is pretty cool.

The times I get pissed is when I'm running somewhere I've already been, where there's no monster around, and I still(!) get a rubberband effect.

Using the latest Nvidia drivers at the moment (not beta). Also I'm on a regular P4 2.6GHz. If anyone finds a fix or some unofficial drivers that works well please share ;)

[jimkirk]

whats fraps?

[Marine OKeefe]

I have an Nvidia Mother Board and 7600GTX Video Card and 0 Problems with running this game.

[Fyren]

I have an Nvidia Mother Board and 7600GTX Video Card and 0 Problems with running this game.

I have the asus sli with 7800gt, the game runs staright to the crapper.

Are you running single core?

I may have problems because I am running a dual core, and the dev's acknowldged that problem as well.

Forget the "optimzied auto inventory", patch your engine so it works a bit more efficient with dual cores.

Powered by nvidia my ***,

[Marine OKeefe]

Well your dual core proc wouldnt be made by nvidia would it? =^P

I have an Intel p4 3.4ghz HT. Its not exactly dual core.

[Fyren]

Well your dual core proc wouldnt be made by nvidia would it? =^P

I have an Intel p4 3.4ghz HT. Its not exactly dual core.

Are you serious?...do you not know anything about computers or are you being sarcastic?

7800 gt=nvidia
Nforce MB=nvidia

You are running a single core, HT is just an emulation of multi threading. Hence why you are having zero problems.

[Marine OKeefe]

7800Gt isnt a CPU first of all.
GPUs are not Dual Core second of all.

Third of all HT, isnt emulation.

The problem is caused by your Dual-Core CPU, which is not Nvidia.

[Fyren]

7800Gt isnt a CPU first of all.
GPUs are not Dual Core second of all.

Third of all HT, isnt emulation.

The problem is caused by your Dual-Core CPU, which is not Nvidia.

Ok first of all, I built my computer- so I would know my parts.

I guess my post went off a bit of a tangent when I mentioned dual core.

Every single game that I've had since I got x2, I've had nill problems. Except this one.

Maybe I should have mentioned that 7800gt does seem to have problem with this engine IF dual core was out of the assumption ( I can naturally assume this since ,once again, I've had zero problems on cpu/gpu intensive games). Check the posts here regarind sli config of 7800gtx as well.

HT is an emulation- it just runs parellel of the processors for optimzied resource/ and output-as oppose to dividing instructions

[Fluke]

Are you serious?...do you not know anything about computers or are you being sarcastic?

7800 gt=nvidia
Nforce MB=nvidia

You are running a single core, HT is just an emulation of multi threading. Hence why you are having zero problems.


nVidia doesn't make motherboards, they offer a chipset solution just like Intel does. Now if you say, AMD vs Intel motherboards, that makes more sense to me.

[Beers]

I am having slow downs with my 6800ultra (specifically at night, or smoky areas). However, I hear ATI guys have it bad too. Basically this game needs some optimization alltogether for performance (dont get me wrong, i love this game, but i have mp and perf issues atm)

[ST185]

Just my 2c worth.
I have the 6600GT, 2.4ghz
3/4 settings on medium, 1/4 on low - i cant remember which one.
1280:1024
Runs fine. Slows down on exiting the cave a bit, but otherwise the graphics are great and i dont get any shuddering.
Only thing i can attribute to it working ok on mine and not yours is that i recently reformatted the comp and reinstalled everything from scratch.
Maybe this 'clean slate' helped.

[MagrothJ]

I really doubt it but you never know. I've never had one problem with a game that couldn't be fixed without reinstalling the comp (if it wasn't a bug within the game that is), and I've played quite a few in my days. Is that 2.4Ghz an AMD? If so it should be performing the same as an Intel of 3.8 Ghz+ or something like that. And if that's the case, high end machines seem to be less affected (at least if I look at my spec, 3.6Ghz P4, 6600GT, 2Gb DDR2) since they've got more power to compensate for the slow-downs I guess. I notice slowdowns in quite a few areas in the game, but very few affect me so bad that it's not playable. Portals, night, cave entrances and fire and such cause slight slowdowns. If I would have had a lower end machine I really believe they would have had a much higher impact on the playability. I've had a few severe slowdowns too but I'm not sure what caused it since I wasn't exactly close to anything special at those moments.

But in any case it might be different for different specs, that's what we're trying to figure out here I guess.

Edit: Oh, and just for reference I'm running 1024*768 with everything on low just because I value smooth gameplay over visual quality.

[Ricowan]

I'm playing on an Athlon x2 4400+ with 2gb ram, nVidia mobo with RealTek onboard sound, and an eVga 7800GT. I have no issuse at all running the game with my dual core cpu, everything set to high in windowed mode at 1600x900. I haven't even had any crashes. Maybe I'm just really lucky though, see my posts about loot drops. :)

[CymTyr]

This is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth...

I've seen multiple posts about people running this game with all settings on high complaining about framerates and slowdown.... First of all, if running any game on all high settings produces slowdown, what should you do? Yes, that's right... You adjust your settings.

Second, I understand there's an issue with the 6600 card.
I'd like to point out as I explain the following that I was having random crashes while playing Morrowind, and this solved the situation perfectly.
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Video card I use: ATI 9250 256 megs

I install Morrowind, play it for a few days, and then it starts randomly crashing. I backed up the saved games, did a reinstall, game was fine for a couple days then starts crashing again. I have no idea why and I'm desperate because the game is a few years old and my system is decent. I cry for help on the forums... This is what they tell me:

Certain games will crash your system if your video card is older and is using the newest drivers. What happens is the newest drivers are calibered towards the newest video cards, and not all of the coding can be used by your older card. Essentially, your video card becomes "confused" because it cannot make use of the newer coding... So random crashes occur.

Point: I rolled back my Catalyst driver to 4.8 and have never had another crash in Morrowind, or in any other game for that matter that was related to my video card. The only change I noticed was this: In Quake 4, some of the textures bug out with the rolled back driver, but this is rectified by doing a system restart and clearing out my cache.
--

I know you think you're supposed to have the newest drivers, but if you don't have the newest video card, you really don't need them. I'm sure some will argue, but I swear on my family, rolling back my video card driver fixed all my problems.

The only issues I have with TQ are the slowdowns which occur when I enter/exit caves (which I don't care about) and very rarely I'll get a few seconds of slowdown generally when a lot of mobs appear on the screen. Edit: Oh yeah, I get the sound bug too... but that's unrelated to video.

This doesn't bother me at all, because I'm use to D2, where recent patches have created "glue spots" in certain areas... having to wait 5-10-20+ seconds and then rubberbanding all the way down the stairs, into a huge group of mobs, etc...

System:
Intel Celeron 2.66 Ghz
1 gig DDR SDRAM
ATI 9250 256 megs
eMachine --- yep it sure is.

Bottom line: Look, I know people are having problems with this game, but have you considered adjusting your graphics options, even swallowing your pride and setting it to low for the time being? Have you considered rolling back your drivers?

Just something to think about, and what worked for me.

Peace homeslices,

-Cym

[Fluke]

This is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth...

I've seen multiple posts about people running this game with all settings on high complaining about framerates and slowdown.... First of all, if running any game on all high settings produces slowdown, what should you do? Yes, that's right... You adjust your settings.

Second, I understand there's an issue with the 6600 card.
I'd like to point out as I explain the following that I was having random crashes while playing Morrowind, and this solved the situation perfectly.
---
Video card I use: ATI 9250 256 megs

I install Morrowind, play it for a few days, and then it starts randomly crashing. I backed up the saved games, did a reinstall, game was fine for a couple days then starts crashing again. I have no idea why and I'm desperate because the game is a few years old and my system is decent. I cry for help on the forums... This is what they tell me:

Certain games will crash your system if your video card is older and is using the newest drivers. What happens is the newest drivers are calibered towards the newest video cards, and not all of the coding can be used by your older card. Essentially, your video card becomes "confused" because it cannot make use of the newer coding... So random crashes occur.

Point: I rolled back my Catalyst driver to 4.8 and have never had another crash in Morrowind, or in any other game for that matter that was related to my video card. The only change I noticed was this: In Quake 4, some of the textures bug out with the rolled back driver, but this is rectified by doing a system restart and clearing out my cache.
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I know you think you're supposed to have the newest drivers, but if you don't have the newest video card, you really don't need them. I'm sure some will argue, but I swear on my family, rolling back my video card driver fixed all my problems.

The only issues I have with TQ are the slowdowns which occur when I enter/exit caves (which I don't care about) and very rarely I'll get a few seconds of slowdown generally when a lot of mobs appear on the screen. Edit: Oh yeah, I get the sound bug too... but that's unrelated to video.

This doesn't bother me at all, because I'm use to D2, where recent patches have created "glue spots" in certain areas... having to wait 5-10-20+ seconds and then rubberbanding all the way down the stairs, into a huge group of mobs, etc...

System:
Intel Celeron 2.66 Ghz
1 gig DDR SDRAM
ATI 9250 256 megs
eMachine --- yep it sure is.

Bottom line: Look, I know people are having problems with this game, but have you considered adjusting your graphics options, even swallowing your pride and setting it to low for the time being? Have you considered rolling back your drivers?

Just something to think about, and what worked for me.

Peace homeslices,

-Cym


Man I can't wait for the patch so I don't have to listen to this diahrea anymore.

[Aldrian]

Bottom line: Look, I know people are having problems with this game, but have you considered adjusting your graphics options, even swallowing your pride and setting it to low for the time being? Have you considered rolling back your drivers?

Let me think...adjusting the graphics options...yea I tried that. I also plugged in the power-cord and turned on the monitor.

If I had an ATI Card, like yourself, I would probably also look into the drivers...again....cause I actually tried that for the first time yesterday. Driver-hassle is one of the major reasons I switched to Nvidia, 99.9% of the time I'm happy with my choice.

On the bright side the game runs pretty ok at the moment, all I had to do was lower the resolution, put all settings on low, and turn off all effects... Ofcourse I still get slowdowns, as well as freezes every five minutes. I do have a better system than the minimum requirements, actually I just looked em up and I got the recommended requirements.

[Xenosmilus]

Bottom line: Look, I know people are having problems with this game, but have you considered adjusting your graphics options, even swallowing your pride and setting it to low for the time being? Have you considered rolling back your drivers?

Always worthwhile suggestions.

Yes I've tried both of these, as well a ton of other troubleshooting including diagnostic startups to strip out the possibility of other processes interfering. All no go. On my system the performance is simply terrible, and not even smooth at 800 x 600 set to low / medium.

Seeing as it works fine for me for other games, and that other people in the thread I created about poor / degrading graphics performance over time have reported the same thing, I am definitely beginning to suspect that there's a problem with the way at least some 6600 and 6800 cards are handled by the game. Of course that's not to say I'm not prepared to keep trying stuff.

Considering I have a system that narrowly exceeds the recommended rather than minimum requirements, I'd expect considerably better performance, and also performance that doesn't degrade rapidly and force me to have to refresh the display via toggling vsynch on and off / windowing onand off and so on to bump it up to its original low level. Here's hoping there's some further information coming on what the story is so that the game can become playable for me. In the meantime I can wait.

[CymTyr]

Okay, I wasn't trying to be degrading was just offering a couple suggestions for what's worked for me.

Obviously, the devs even admitted there's an issue with the 6600 card... the lower graphics option I mentioned was more directed at a handful of people I'd seen posting about poor performance with a bunch of their settings on high, not using a 6600 card.

I really hope the patch Wed. helps you guys out with this... I know how frustrating it can be when a graphics card issue comes up.

This setup originally came with an Intel integrated Xtreme Graphics card (actually it's still in there, just turned off) and I remember thinking how badly Intel's graphics suck. Fortunately, at least this emachine has pci slots....

And no, I didn't buy my system. I'm just thankful it likes me enough to let me play the games I want to play, besides Oblivion.

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OT a bit... it's late, sorry.

-Cym

[Fluke]

Okay, I wasn't trying to be degrading was just offering a couple suggestions for what's worked for me.

Obviously, the devs even admitted there's an issue with the 6600 card... the lower graphics option I mentioned was more directed at a handful of people I'd seen posting about poor performance with a bunch of their settings on high, not using a 6600 card.

I really hope the patch Wed. helps you guys out with this... I know how frustrating it can be when a graphics card issue comes up.

This setup originally came with an Intel integrated Xtreme Graphics card (actually it's still in there, just turned off) and I remember thinking how badly Intel's graphics suck. Fortunately, at least this emachine has pci slots....

And no, I didn't buy my system. I'm just thankful it likes me enough to let me play the games I want to play, besides Oblivion.

--
OT a bit... it's late, sorry.

-Cym

No solution tip or anything has worked for me. What have I done to get around the crashing? Well constantly reload and retry or go a different way or teleport to other cities and then back again. It's crashing so much now I have just put this game on an indefinite hold. It's beyond crazy how much it is crashing. It was once just a cave, then portal now it's just simply walking around. I really hope the patch helps and just to say I too am extremely frustrated so when I see someone such as the comment to turn everything on LOW which was attempted way early into my experiements for stability I get angry because I want to play this game and satisfy my addiction but I CAN'T!! I really hope they fix these crashes. It seems so obvious to me now these problems are completely associated with nVidia. I've read in so many places people with nVidia are having problems. Why this game has a nVidia logo on it and it runs embarassingly unstable as such.. makes me wonder. I don't recall the demo crashing on me and that would/could be because of the exclusion of Securerom... Coincidence??