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Old 07-29-2006, 03:42 PM
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Me too, lol!
Plus I need a toon like this one to gather gear for my other ones.

But I'm under the impression that STR is better than INT, since you'll be able to wear a weapon and a shield, which means more potential +skills. Ancile or Crest of Taurus seems really neat. Maybe even Zeno's Third Paradox? The only INT-based weapon I can find would be Staff of Elysium, which gives +2 to Nature Skills.

EDIT: I'm even considering using two Onagers as endgame gear. =)

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Old 07-30-2006, 05:26 AM
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Abused? Funny I could only find one guide on making a Soothsayer.

But I do enjoy playing my Soothsayer also. I only play this game for about 2 hours every other day so I find no joy having to point and click x10 to kill one mob. I like to sit back and partialy relax while kicking *** FAST, VERY FAST.

Using this build I accelerate my farming x2+ over Nature/Spirit builds. Not to mention Soothsayers have no way of stunning anything. Going with Visions of Death can give them fear but its just scattering mobs about having your pets chase them. If a Soothsayer decides to use Ternion and attack anything its a guarantee all aggro will go to them... and in most cases thats not good.

Oh, and Ancestral Warriors > Ether Lord + Lich King

I guess that you haven't been playing TQ for very long. Both the champion and soothsayer builds have been around for quite some time (since the demo). They are both very easy builds to use, in fact they are too easy and THEY REALLY DON'T NEED A GUIDE in order to use them effectively(although I'm sure some people will be thankful). I have taken both builds through legendary and became rather bored quickly. You aren't the one kicking ***, your pets do all the work. Thus these are both good builds to farm with since the pets make quick work of the enemies. War horn really doesn't make a big difference. In fact all you need in the champion build is ancestral horn, heart of oak and 1 point in refresh (everything else is just gravy). A soothsayer doesn't use ternion/arcane lore, thats for oracles, conjurers, druids...etc. Once you've taken both builds through legendary and had sometime playing them, I think you will find alot of versatility in the soothsayer. By the way, I like my champion since it was the first build that I tried.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:53 AM
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Thank you all for the feedback.

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- I'll try your mouse button allocation, all main stuff on mouse seems nice.
Horn on LMB seem a bit inconvenient though, does one have to shift or actually target an enemy to fire it?
On Mouse Button 1 I remember that only Mele, Onslaught, War Horn, or Sylvan Nymph was a choice for assigning. For those that find a great weapon might love to use it and I definitely agree changing them around. I play the game with the mouse only as I use my other hand for excessive beer handling But you are right. I need to either target the enemy for War Horn on LMB or hold shift to use without targeting enemy.

My exact mouse setup for 1hand gaming on this build:
Left mouse button: War Horn
Middle mouse button (press): Use skill #1, I have Ancestral Horn there
Right mouse button: Refresh
Scroll Up: Health potion
Scroll Down: Energy potion
- I never zoom as I like to view from farthest distance at all times. But I use potions often enough. I precast my Wolves, Nymph, and Heart of the Oak right when I log in and rarely use them again after. Seems the game doesnt take any more of my mouse buttons (using Logitech MX510). I'd love to assign dropped item filter to one of the remaining ones.

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- Ignore Pain only works while the Onslaught "buff" is running one would think since its an addon to that? So would be rather useless in the scenario you describe, as you arent meleeing at all?
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just to let you know ignore pain is part of the onslaught tree so too get the damage reduction you have to attack monsters yourself, so if your not meleeing with this char dont waste the points.
- Thank you, guide updated.

I like your name suggestions. Anyone have any other? (Post or PM)
Just thought it fit considering no other build i tried can solo faster and be this efficient, but then again, thats also based on playstyle.

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Old 07-31-2006, 10:24 AM
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You know that there are -recharge items avaliable right? Refresh is a newbies crutch.
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Old 07-31-2006, 12:57 PM
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You know that there are -recharge items avaliable right? Refresh is a newbies crutch.
Not for a Champion build. If you want to keep your AH up all the time it's practically impossible because of the refresh timer even with a few decent recharge items. It's not pretty to be in a pack fight in legendary and have AH drop and 8 angry Tigermen come storming at you. Refresh works as intended for this build. Besides...where else are Champions going to put the points anway..we really only need a handful to make the build work..
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Old 07-31-2006, 01:55 PM
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In addition to what he said, for people who aren't twinking their characters, getting all of said -recharge gear isn't that friggin simple. It's 'available', sure, if you get lucky.

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Old 08-01-2006, 03:44 AM
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I got a build that is similar to that one.. Diffrence is that I've specced both for melee so I atleast feel I can do something myself and in tight situations use them mean pets.

I've only taken the wolfes to 7 so I have 2 wolfes and got the nymf (she's cute and run funny) and then I got 10 in AH so I have 5 spirits and then ofcourse 1 point in Recharge.

Rest of the points I've spent in Upping my own DW dmg and I kinda love it. I feel strong and powerfull and if that's not enough or if I see a large group of annoying pests I call on my brothers (c;

My build is here
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Old 08-09-2006, 11:19 PM
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[quote=Destroyer]

I play the game with the mouse only as I use my other hand for excessive beer handling QUOTE]


Excessive beer handling FTW
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Old 09-04-2006, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: [THE DESTROYER] - A complete Champion build guide.

Don't re-spec at 26... if you do that then you'll be about 10 points short of getting refresh, leave it until 30 ish
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Old 09-24-2006, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: [THE DESTROYER] - A complete Champion build guide.

How is the build with the 1.2 patch? Still as powerful/fast or do points need to be redistributed to have it be as effective?
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