All PC skinners please: HELP!!! for the all-skin mod needed

[Evil666]

Hi lufe,

I have'nt understand what the mod is actually do ? The mod increase the number of dyes choices and associate it with a skin ? Is that right ??

Does the mod can allow me the have more then 16 skins for each genders ?? If the mod could do it, it may be better than my way the assign skins.

I have plan to release another version of Skins for Dummies soon, but if your new way to do it is better, maybe I shoud'nt put more time in this projet.

[lufe]

Evil666, Skins for Dummies and this mod will be able to co-exist. This mod will add bottles for 139+ skins in the game. It will include all (by me) known skins existing until today.

Instead of having only the 16 standard bottles, you'll have hundreds of bottles to choose from, each one with the real name of the skin that you want to use.


That's the good part of the story.

The bad part of the story:

1)It is a MOD. That means that it will need to be installed to run. You'll have to replace database.arz and text_en.arc to use it.
2)It's a Titan Quest Immortal Throne mod, not a Titan Quest mod. People using Titan Quest won't be able to use it.
3)Some people are unreasonably scared of installing a mod and having their game screwed. Other people will want to play other mods and not everybody knows how to "mix" mods, e.g., you can mix the allskins mod with XmaxX mod, sure, but you have to be able to do it.

So, for those cases, skins for dummies is a good solution. People will have a choice: if they want to use skins for dummies, there's no mod to be installed. If they want to have all the 139+ skins easily available on the merchant, with custom bottles and all, they can install this mod - or even include this mod on their own.

I hope for example when this is finished to have Lilith including my mod on the base of the release 1.0. I'm going to ask him if he's interested.

[Evil666]

Ok then ! I will continue my work in Skins for Dummies. I new version will be available soon. But I have to finish working on the Beta-test of the new version of Lilith first.

Hope to get the new SfD out before Mostal release Lilith v1.0.

Your mod still a pretty good idea, but since I have the easiest method to use skins, I will keep my thread up to date !!

BTW, a change of Database could affect TQ: IT in Multiplayer games. Have you try to use your mod Online with standard Database partener yet ?

[lufe]

I'm still needing to add all .dbrs (it's one for each new skin), then I will try it, Evil666. I intend to report here when I find it out

[I_Raps]

lufe,

Since you ARE doing a database mod here (I suspected, but didn't know), do you know that you can edit the xpack\creatures\pc\femalepc01.dbr etc. files, Player Variables\playerTextures to allow the player to choose any dye color at startup?

I doubt you would want to put in 139 choices, though. You'll also have to provide a "color swatch" for each one you use (no reason not to have its name printed on the color). Those would be found in the various UI folders.


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p.s. Evil666, check your pm's.

[Evil666]

I've read you PM I_Raps. I have DL the texture file you spoke of but I cannot see it here at work. I will get a eye on it tonight when I get home.

Hope I like it !! ...and still hope you'll change your mind and share your own skins creations !!

EDIT: I've think about something Lufe. If you get your mod "integrated" in the Lilith Database, will it be possible to add more new skins in it later ??

Some skinners here are really productive here, like Arkeyla who is make a new skin every week. (Good job BTW !) If your mod is integrated in the Lilith Database, it maybe be a "definitive" skins selection, with no turning back. Unless the Skins for Dummies technique still working with your mod. Could you tested it ?

EDIT2: Have you included Male skins too ?
Maul's skins:
http://www.titanquest.net/forums/ski...-good-men.html
kelembribor21's skins:
http://www.titanquest.net/forums/ski...nter-skin.html
I also like I few other Male skins use in my own selection:
The first one (by Shark), the second one (by San Diavolo), the 4th & 6th (by Thalys)
See pics here:
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?i...leskinsek1.jpg

[I_Raps]

Originally Posted by Evil666

EDIT: I've think about something Lufe. If you get your mod "integrated" in the Lilith Database, will it be possible to add more new skins in it later ??

Maybe include some "blanks" for future additions.

If you do decide to add more startup choices, maybe you could run a Poll for which skins to put in.

This Forum needs more polls.

[lufe]

Originally Posted by I_Raps

lufe,

Since you ARE doing a database mod here (I suspected, but didn't know), do you know that you can edit the xpack\creatures\pc\femalepc01.dbr etc. files, Player Variables\playerTextures to allow the player to choose any dye color at startup?

I wondered where those were done, but I confess it was a quick wondering thought...

As much as I would like to include some non-standard choices on the beginning of the character (and you're right, I wouldn't be able to include 139 ones, it would be cumbersome and defeat the whole idea of choosing), I worry about making a poll to verify which would be the most popular. That because:

1) I'd have to post the 139+ skins's jpgs somewhere so that people would choose them,
2) I would have to take care of the poll, mediate over it, etc etc, and it would take time to do it (and reach a consensus), and I am hoping to release this in time to enter as a standard feature of Mostal's Lilith (if he (she?) accepts to have it there.

I'm willing to do this (put poll-chosen ones there - 16 of them) if one of you will put the .jpgs file somewhere and run the poll for me. Are you up to it? I can provide the .jpg files, what I need is someone taking care of the matter for me and giving me the results...

If nobody will take the poll matter and do it, though, I think I'll include some skins anyway, just they won't be democratically chosen.

Originally Posted by Evil666

...will it be possible to add more new skins in it later ??

Hmmz... I can add some blank spaces as I_Raps said, the names of the .tex and the .dbrs won't be with the names of the authors of the skins, though (as the ones now are). *scratches head* The problem I see is that the bottles of those skins would point to "placeholder" .tex files, not meant to be used until the new skins came for them.

I'm thinking about it, will edit here once I get to the point where I can figure out how to do it.

Edit: Maul's and kelembribor21's I've added, the other ones I don't know where to get them from? I mean, the original post of them?

[Evil666]

Thalys's skins:
http://www.titanquest.net/forums/tex...male-skin.html

San Diavolo's skin: (the non nude one)
http://www.titanquest.net/forums/adu...ale-skins.html

The "hairy male" is not by Shark as I tough, it's by BBird:
http://www.titanquest.net/forums/ski...ght=hairy+male

[lufe]

Some notes:

- No can do about Thaly's Paladin Skin, unfortunately. Unless some male-skin lover (not me, for sure) changes his paladin skin to use dark hair. It's actually a simple work doing it, truly, yes, but my motivation to do it is below 0. Since changing via using the dye bottle won't change the malepc01hairhelmet.tex, no blonde men are making it in this mod.

- Thalys's Trojan Leatherclothes will be added

- TheRaven's (or Bbird's) male hairy pack is going to be included

- San Diavolo's male nude skin is also being added (oh the horror!) but I didn't find his non-nude skin on that thread. Guess it's somewhere inside his mod? Not sure

- Bbird's hairy male was reworked by TheRaven, it's difficult to find a good name for the skin (all .tex skins have the name of the authors on this mod) but I guess I'll let it as TheRaven's, since he worked on them after Bbird, and I don't have access to what Bbird's original skin was like. It seems Bbird made only one, and TheRaven extended it to all colours


I've decided against putting many skin placeholders for new skins on the mod. That brings a bit of chaos on the whole thing. When adding new skins, I'll just release a patch version of the mod (with the source and all skins, of course, so it can be integrated in another mod).

BUT I've decided to dedicate at least a whole row of bottles (16) for custom-made skins, meaning, people like I_Raps that *AHEM, cough cough* don't want to share their own creations will still be able to add up to 16 of their private skins to the mod without having to change anything.

Another thing about the mod: it is divided into ADULT and NON-ADULT versions, so whoever doesn't want the ADULT skins won't even need to download them (oh the horror!).

More info will be here as I go along.