Dual-Wield Question

[The Rock-man]

I said "IN THIS GAME" Darth in this game it takes the % chances and adds them up to decides if one gone off then decides which one it was.

You never played a maxed out warden have you?

[Darth Freyr]

So if you have all three skills maxed out, something will always happen. I suggest you go try it out, see if that's true.

[Llian]

There are chances NOTHING will happen. It checks for EACH one I believe to see which it uses. Not sure of the order of priority, but each one is a different affect. With so many chances however, the rate at which it occurs will be more than an individual affect occuring but NOT the sum of them all.

[claudius]

Max em out and test it.

[Mr. Scetch]

I'm pretty sure they work separately. But the chance of none of them activating is very low. (like 1 to 10)

[claudius]

I know for a fact that in regular TQ it is impossible for 2 procs to go off at the same time and that it does it lottery style eg defense has 3 x 20% procs so 1-20 proc 1 21-40 proc 2 41-60 proc 3 61 - 100 no proc (or if warden then volley and gouge fill up the remaining slots).

I have tested warden and though I eventually removed gouge because the animation slows you down with everything maxed there is always a proc.

Otherwise there would be a .8^5 chance that there is no proc on a warden and that does not happen!

[The Rock-man]

Originally Posted by claudius

I know for a fact that in regular TQ it is impossible for 2 procs to go off at the same time and that it does it lottery style eg defense has 3 x 20% procs so 1-20 proc 1 21-40 proc 2 41-60 proc 3 61 - 100 no proc (or if warden then volley and gouge fill up the remaining slots).

I have tested warden and though I eventually removed gouge because the animation slows you down with everything maxed there is always a proc.

Otherwise there would be a .8^5 chance that there is no proc on a warden and that does not happen!

claudius this was what i was refering to and remember the mechanics of the game are unchanged.

The game rolls to decides if a proc goes of in the case of a warden it be 1-20 Shield Smash 21-40 disable 41-60 pulverize 61-80 Gouge and 81-100 Volley. (or all 1 &2s be Shield Smash etc).

So in the new CC tree with only Moirae's Attack 24% Attack of Janus 35.6% and Double Kill 40.4% (normalized to add up to 100%)
1-25 MA 26-62 AJ and 62-104 DK.
I know for sure that its not 72.5% when maxed as this would mean on average 2 times in 7 hits will proc nothing and this don't happen (in 3 hours of play time).

The same as in the warden case where 1 in 3 wont proc anything if it check each in turn, THIS for sure don't happen.

[SpiderLocMTGO]

So we have a 100% proc rate with the skills maxed. On one hand, this seems really strong. On another, that is a lot of skill points going towards melee procs that may or may not be better spent elsewhere.

[benjidatramp]

I have an Exterminator and these attacks are REALLY strong. but the killer skill is endorphin. Combined with alchemy you get some really really ridiculous defensive skills and speed boosts. I am in act 1 legenday with 0 deaths and I can take down hydra alreay untwinked (level 50) quite easily. Of course this was helped by the lucky find of a sapros on the way there

Very very strong combo.

[The Rock-man]

Originally Posted by SpiderLocMTGO

So we have a 100% proc rate with the skills maxed. On one hand, this seems really strong. On another, that is a lot of skill points going towards melee procs that may or may not be better spent elsewhere.

Its more than 100% chance when maxed and since you cant have more chance of something going of than 100% you got points you can take back, as these etc points only effect the balance of procs happening, and so you be better of taking a point out of the weaker one.