help with posion/bleed buidl

[candyman]

can someone help me with a poison/bleed build or one that has the both if possible. I thought about rogue+spirit(lots of bleed damage from rogue and reduce enemy bleed rezistance with spirit)
Can anyone post the best dot build that has a chance in latter dificulties with good gear.

[Felexitus]

id rather go for poison or bleed damage only since these damage types need strong attention to work out and its hardly possible to focus on both at once. if you still want to id either go for this brigand build
http://www.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.a...10-0-0-0-0-6-0
tahts basically the weapon benefitting from poison and chance to bleed and the knives as a reliable bleed damage source. nevertheless depending on your items one will always lack.


if youd go for spirit as much as it annoys me id kick mortal wound to get something like this
http://www.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.a...-8-8-0-0-0-0-0

this allows ternion/arcance lore to spread the poison. also with the extreme amount of enemies hit at once the 33% trigger will hit often. i think that might justify cutting the knives(i needed the skills)

the spirit build has a few problems though, the main one being that youre using outsider liche king and ternion.....that inevitably WILL overshadow dots

[Benoit.Demers]

Hi saw that you put points in bleeding skills on the second build. Does the bleeding works with staves?

[candyman]

Originally Posted by Benoit.Demers

Hi saw that you put points in bleeding skills on the second build. Does the bleeding works with staves?

yes it does

[candyman]

I will try the second build and maybe change something

[candyman]

I have 2 questions:
1.Does bleed or poison damage sources stack or they reset the timer???
2.What is thye best combo for bleed damage:
-ternion atack+that skill with 33% chance from rogue mastery
-throwing knives
Is there any other combination that work better

[Felexitus]

1. resets timer
2.
if you get a high bleed damage weapon that might be better than ternion using the base attack. but dont forget you can insert bleeding talismans into your staffs too.
be it as it may knives have the highest single bleed damage ingame. also they benefit from every damage bonus thats not on the weapons and they get the %boni from weapons too. so

Anendjib's Spear
96-108 Damage
25% Piercing
Speed: Slow

+18% Pierce Damage
+22% Bleeding Damage With +52% Improved Duration
7% Chance of 133 Bonus Damage
20-31 Piercing Damage
+2 to Gouge
would be awesome for a knife thrower

im not 100% sure but i think open wound may trigger for knives too. the problem with knives ist just they have a recast timer. also their pierce damage is dex dependant, and bleed damage increasing armors are str dependant (agamemnons death mask needs 486 str, armor of anubis needs 332, mantle of evisceration needs 223) so you need str and a lot of energy. never a good combo

[candyman]

i tryed deathchill with necrosis and the area of efect is small(4 yards) so i don't think deathchill+necrosis and the knives are a good combo. The same is for ternion and deathchill+necrosis. Why does that deatchill lowers bleed rezistance if is not usefull. Aoe of deathchill should be bigger.

Probably a brigand is still better for this build.

And please answer a few more question.
1.Does poison stack with bleed?
2.Does 2 diferent skills stack? Eg: if open wound triggers and i throw at the same time those knives, will both skills do their damage?

[ZombieBunny]

Does poison stack from seperate sources? etc pets or dualwield/shield?

[Felexitus]

poison and bleeds stack and different sources of damage stack too