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Old 09-30-2006, 08:44 PM
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Default What's wrong with my [Brigand]?

Hey peeps, first post here, so here we go:

I've been playing TQ for a while now, and my main character is a level 47 Elementalist/Pyromancer, and I just finished epic-difficulty (crap loot by the way! Bah!), so I have some experience already.

I got somewhat bored with that character, so I decided to start a new one and I chose Brigand. I started up and picked up the Hunting-mastery first, since I liked to improve my character with bows and stuff right from the beginning.

At the moment I'm lvl 16 and my build looks something like this:

http://www.titancalc.com/TitanCalc.a...-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

I really feel like I'm not doing the dps everyone was telling me Brigands do. :P I feel like I'm killing everything way more slow than my Conqueror and Elementalist did at this stage. Is there something with my build that screws my dps up? Should I have started with building up the Rogue-tree instead of Hunting? Is the poisoning stuff the main source of dps for a Brigand?

I also have problems with loot. Nah, not just bad luck (that too, though!), but every even remotely good piece of loot has some weird requirements like strenght and intelligence! What's up with that? Ain't rogues and hunters all about dexterity? How should I build up my attributes to be able to wear decent Brigand gear?

I've been reading Felexitus' threads quite alot, but I'd like some answers to these problems and maybe some general tips about being a Brigand in general, too.

Cheers, and thanks in advance,
Kelryn.
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Old 09-30-2006, 09:01 PM
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no matter when and where if you kill slower than a conqueror something is wrong conqs are amongst the worst dps chars of all.

a lvl 16 brigand doesnt have the neccessary skill points to be able to get the insane dps brigands are known for

this is the order of the most dps influential skills

blade honing
call of the hunt
wood lore
art of the hunt

since youre using bows and call is temporary its probably the right thing to have wood lore and art maxed

the hunter tree is probably the worst starting tree of all. hunters are late bloomers.

my brigand guide promoted the use of poison for quite a while and i fully stand behind that decision, the other way to start is traps. nothing beats these at the start

your biggest mistake was putting points into skills that give percentage values while your absolute numbers arent high yet. absolute damage skills rule in lower levels
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Old 09-30-2006, 09:15 PM
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no matter when and where if you kill slower than a conqueror something is wrong conqs are amongst the worst dps chars of all.

a lvl 16 brigand doesnt have the neccessary skill points to be able to get the insane dps brigands are known for

this is the order of the most dps influential skills

blade honing
call of the hunt
wood lore
art of the hunt

since youre using bows and call is temporary its probably the right thing to have wood lore and art maxed

the hunter tree is probably the worst starting tree of all. hunters are late bloomers.

my brigand guide promoted the use of poison for quite a while and i fully stand behind that decision, the other way to start is traps. nothing beats these at the start

your biggest mistake was putting points into skills that give percentage values while your absolute numbers arent high yet. absolute damage skills rule in lower levels
Cheers, thanks alot.

Do you think I could save the situation by respeccing all my points from hunting to the rogue tree to get some poisons and other dps skills or just start gathering up points in the rogue mastery without taking points from hunting out, or should I just stick a lil' longer while with Hunting now that I got started with it?

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Old 09-30-2006, 09:34 PM
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id still go for rogue
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Old 11-28-2006, 08:20 AM
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this is the order of the most dps influential skills

blade honing
call of the hunt
wood lore
art of the hunt
does this mean im going to max this first and get the envenom tree??
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:03 AM
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Hi,

I would try max out Envenom Weapon...and look for poison bows...it helped me a lot form the beginning!! Then switch to other +pierce skills and Envenom weapon put down to 1 point..

Be aware of Blade Honing skill, it's not for bows!!

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Old 11-28-2006, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: What's wrong with my [Brigand]?

My brigand is level 30 now and I do very good in Normal Orient with Traps "only" at level 6 and Envenom at 5. I like to change between bow and spear just for fun. Starting a brigand with more or less the rogue skills only is very efficient - but use the hunter's wood lore for more attack speed, that makes a big difference.
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