Hermes Sandal disappears after using TQvault

[Lilithputaner]

I don't know if this problem belogs to TQvault or Lilith, but it just happens with Hermes Sandal afaict.

[jiaco]

Do you have the fanpatch and is this the latest version of TQVault with the custommap set to lilith?

[Lilithputaner]

I saw this with TQVault 2.18.3391.33973 (which is probably not the latest in the meanwhile), with the custommap set to LilithMasteries.

It doesn't bug me personally but I noticed a while ago, and at that time found nothing about it, so I thought I'll tell here.

Unfortunately I didn't google again before posting - now I did and found http://www.titanquest.net/forums/too...al-relics.html . So I think it could be an item name issue with the special char in it, maybe TQVault doesn't properly take care of encodings.

I actually don't know if I have the fanpatch installed. My TQIT installation is quite old and I don't remember if I just downloaded the fanpatch 1.16, or if I already installed it.

I wouldn't know if it's active either, because I have Frozen World and Lilith installed, both came with other mods (Masteries and maby others I don't know), and afaik they all operate on the same database files...

[jiaco]

No, sorry I should have been more precise, but basically, Hermes sandal was in the game but never dropped. Then mostal added it into Lilith, and later it was fixed in the fanpatch. So the TQVault with custommaps should be seeing the lilith version if it was a lilith drop transferred between lilith toons. But I am not sure at present, I think with the fanpatch it just works, but without there might still be issues with that sandal.

I put it on a list to look into, but if you do not have the fanpatch, I think installing it should take care of this issue, as I remember seeing this once but my current game/vault works fine with the sandal.

Please post back if you have new info.

[vorbis]

My TQVault (2.2.2.2) doesn't lose the relic, but you will lose a lilith hermes sandal if you load it in the main game since lilith uses own records for the relic and its completion bonuses. It would be nice if this can be changed in further lilith versions. I don't know if lilith uses unmodified main game monsters, if so you can get two different hermes sandal relics in lilith at the moment (if you use the fanpatch). I think that lilith should use the hermes sandal records of the main game. If the relic should have different stats and bonuses lilth should overwrite the main game records by using the same paths and names.

BTW, it would be nice if the special characters in the folder and record names of the lilith db could be removed to make it extractable.

[jiaco]

Originally Posted by vorbis

BTW, it would be nice if the special characters in the folder and record names of the lilith db could be removed to make it extractable.

That was pure speculation and I believed it too until I got my hands on the source. I honestly have no idea why TQVault cannot extract the Lilith database. There are no special characters, however, most of the records are not in a records folder.

But I will trace the Hermes sandal and try to make sure there is only 1 in Lilith 1.2

[vorbis]

It's not pure speculation, the same happens with frozen world, it is also not extractable because of the ö,ä,ü,ß in the german language. In lilith it's the `,´ and so on in for instance reliques\reliquehermès\. If you extract the db with tqvault you can clearly see that he writes a ? instead of the char. artmanger behaves similar but it accepts a few more special chars (on the hermes folder it resigns too).

Ah, this makes me remember, that's the reason why the relic gets lost, it doesn't disappear in tqvault but tqvault messes up its dbr path because it saves reliques\reliqueherm?s, so if you transfer it back to your lilith char the game will lose it.

[Abetillo]

For me, in Lilith, the Hermes Sandals dissapear, so you must put it in your ''to do things list'' for Lilith 1.2, Jiaco.

I using TQVault 2.2.2.2 with fanpatch 1.17, but as mentioned before, the fanpatch doesn't solve this, because Lilith uses its own database. In fact, even if it is a little off topic, i'd say that is neccesary to put the improvements of the fanpatch in Lilith 1.2, they are useful.

[vorbis]

Like jiaco wrote, most of the records are not in the records folder so they don't collide with the records of the fanpatch, because of that fact mostly all/all the improvements of the fanpatch should still work in lilith.

[jiaco]

Well, I stand corrected Vorbis, sorry about that but I never noticed that particular folder before now. After a quick glance through the records and folders with ArtManager, I am pretty sure that ReliqueHermes (with the last e with an accent) is the only accent in there. I will scan with a program when I get time. If that is the case, then I will alter all references to Lilith's sandal to use the fanpatch sandal and just get rid of the record.

Then to continue to muck up database extraction, I will make some unused folder with lots of accents in it. But at least it wont get in the way of TQVault's normal operation.