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Old 11-15-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Hybrid/Caster Damage Comparison

Just started a Thane and wanted to know how much Elemental damage my spells would do with or without INT and I got a little carried away...

I've included all the skills in Storm, Earth and Dream that deal flat Cold/Lightning/Fire damage, corresponding DoT's and retaliations.

Modifiers:
Cold: Heart Of Frost (+52%), Eye of the Storm (+100%), Velocity (+52%, Ice Shard only)
Lightning: Static Charge (+76%), Eye of the Storm (+100%)
Fire: Earth Enchantment (+100%), Flame Arch (+55%, Flame Surge only)
Electrical Burn: Lucid Dream (+45%)

Retaliations get the same modifiers as regular spells.

DoT's are only modified by INT and +%DoT of the same type.

The first calculation is with 0 INT, the second is with 325 INT (+50%, +65% for DoT's) and the third is with 650 INT (+100%, +130% for DoT's).

The underlined text is the Average Damage.



STORM

Lightning Bolt
(178-363 +176%)+0% = 491,28-1001,88 (746,58)
(178-363 +176%)+50% = 736,92-1502,82 (1119,87)
(178-363 +176%)+100% = 982,56-2003,76 (1493,16)
Chain Lightning
(150-226 +176%)+0% = 414-623,76 (518,88)
(150-226 +176%)+50% = 621-935,64 (778,32)
(150-226 +176%)+100% = 828-1247,52 (1037,76)

Ice Shard
(60-83 +204%)+0% = 182,4-252,32 (217,36)
(60-83 +204%)+50% = 273,6-378,48 (326,04)
(60-83 +204%)+100% = 364,8-504,64 (434,72)
Torrent - DoT
(78 +0%)+0% = 78
(78 +0%)+65% = 128,7
(78 +0%)+130% = 179,4

Thunderball
(60-84 +176%)+0% = 165,6-231,84 (198,72)
(60-84 +176%)+50% = 248,4-347,76 (298,08)
(60-84 +176%)+100% = 331,2-463,68 (397,44)
Concussive Blast
(24-48 +176%)+0% = 66,24-132,48 (99,36)
(24-48 +176%)+50% = 99,36-198,72 (149,04)
(24-48 +176%)+100% = 132,48-264,96 (198,72)

Squall
(44-62 +176%)+0% = 121,44-171,12 (146,28)
(44-62 +176%)+50% = 182,16-256,68 (219,42)
(44-62 +176%)+100% = 242,88-342,24 (292,56)

Storm Nimbus
(23 +152%)+0% = 57,96
(23 +152%)+50% = 86,94
(23 +152%)+100% = 115,92
(19-75 +176%)+0% = 52,44-207 (129,72)
(19-75 +176%)+50% = 78,66-310,5 (194,58)
(19-75 +176%)+100% = 104,88-414 (259,44)
Static Charge - Retaliation
(186 +176%)+0% = 513,36
(186 +176%)+50% = 770,04
(186 +176%)+100% = 1026,72

Storm Surge
(25 +152%)+0% = 63
(25 +152%)+50% = 94,5
(25 +152%)+100% = 126
(3-43 +176%)+0% = 8,28-118,68 (63,48)
(3-43 +176%)+50% = 12,42-178,02 (95,22)
(3-43 +176%)+100% = 16,56-237,36 (126,96)
Maxed
(97 +152%)+0% = 244,44
(97 +152%)+50% = 366,66
(97 +152%)+100% = 488,88
(77-134 +176%)+0% = 212,52-369,84 (291,18)
(77-134 +176%)+50% = 318,78-554,76 (436,77)
(77-134 +176%)+100% = 425,04-739,68 (582,36)

Freezing Blast
(24 +152%)+0% = 60,48
(24 +152%)+50% = 90,72
(24 +152%)+100% = 120,96



EARTH

Earth Enchantment
(5-8 +100%)+0% = 10-16 (13)
(5-8 +100%)+50% = 15-24 (19,5)
(5-8 +100%)+100% = 20-32 (26)
Brimstone - DoT
(98 +0%)+0% = 98
(98 +0%)+65% = 161,7
(98 +0%)+130% = 225,4

Molten Rock - Retaliation
(15 +100%)+0% = 30
(15 +100%)+50% = 45
(15 +100%)+100% = 60

Ring Of Flame
(38 +100%)+0% = 76
(38 +100%)+50% = 114
(38 +100%)+100% = 152

Flame Surge
(43-59 +155%)+0% = 109,65-150,45 (130,05)
(43-59 +155%)+50% = 164,475-225,675 (195,075)
(43-59 +155%)+100% = 219,3-300,9 (260,1)
Barrage - DoT
(66 +0%)+0% = 66
(66 +0%)+65% = 108,9
(66 +0%)+130% = 151,8

Volcanic Orb
(91-128 +100%)+0% = 182-256 (219)
(91-128 +100%)+50% = 273-384 (328,5)
(91-128 +100%)+100% = 364-512 (438)
Conflagration - DoT
(48 +0%)+0% = 48
(48 +0%)+65% = 79,2
(48 +0%)+130% = 110,4
Fragmentation
(59 +100%)+0% = 118
(59 +100%)+50% = 177
(59 +100%)+100% = 236

Eruption
(95-112 +100%)+0% = 190-224 (207)
(95-112 +100%)+50% = 285-336 (310,5)
(95-112 +100%)+100% = 380-448 (414)



DREAM

Trance Of Wrath - DoT
(182 +45%)+0% = 263,9
(182 +45%)+65% = 435,435
(182 +45%)+130% = 606,97

Psionic Burn - DoT
(150 +45%)+0% = 217,5
(150 +45%)+65% = 358,875
(150 +45%)+130% = 500,25

Temporal Rift - DoT
(796 +45%)+0% = 1154,2
(796 +45%)+65% = 1904,43
(796 +45%)+130% = 2654,66

Psionic Immolation - DoT
(544 +45%)+0% = 788,8
(544 +45%)+65% = 1301,52
(544 +45%)+130% = 1814,24


You need this and your characters Casting Speed to estimate DPS.

NOTE: Remember that this is without any equipment, more damage is to be expected...
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Just to remind some of the skills mentioned are DOT's.
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That's pretty cool. Must've taken quite a time to do all this.
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ZCool but what does it mean ?
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Just to remind some of the skills mentioned are DOT's.

Which ones are DoT?

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ZCool but what does it mean ?
It measures the approximate damage from Elemental spells...
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Default Re: Hybrid/Caster Damage Comparison

Very interesting. Is there any information that show how much flat physical damage is increased with more strength? Or how about Piercing damage with Dexterity?

Do you think Intelligence increases elemental damage about as much as strength increases physical mele damage or dexterity increases piercing damage?
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From http://www.titanquest.net/forums/spo...knowledge.html

"Each 50 points of Strength adds 10% Physical damage and +2 flat Physical damage."

"Each 65 points of Dexterity adds 10% Piercing damage and roughly +1.95 flat Piercing damage."

"Each 65 points of Intelligence adds 10% Elemental damage, and roughly 1.625 flat Elemental damage."

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Yeah Gvblake22, you should have a look at that Knowledge thread. The first time I read it I found out a lot of new stuff.
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At Viper Sweden: Maul is referring to the burn parts of the trees from the skills Brimstone, Barrage, Conflagration and Torrent I believe, it would be best if you stated if these have been left out or not.

Gwarrior please learn to read posts properly as it explained in the post.
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Added DoT's (Damage-over-Time) and Retaliations.
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