Batrachos Greaves = excessive DA ... ?

[yerkyerk]

I don't think 100% casting speed is much special - to reach the casting speed max, it's better to use rings, which give higher %casting speed and some elemental damage on top of that.

130%pierce resist on an armor isn't really useful either - there's lots of better options. Remember what great armor options you have to sacrifice for such a crappy armor.

3hunting 40pierce is nice, but when compared to SBC's, it stands no chance at all.

[Ctrl-Alt-Suppr]

I did not put "SBC's" because you had talked to before. (I added)

It is a pity that I do not speak English, I can not convince you with g00gle translation ...
All equipment is a question of balance. We must therefore look at what is becoming more profitable.
► Nothing goes beyond the armoury which gives more than 150% pierce resistance.
► The affixes " elemental dmg " on rings are better than helmets, so not having a casting speed is above (theoretically) a better choice.
► It is easier to get 25 all resist that +40% pierce dmg (choice depending on build)

PS: Note that I cheat for over a year and that I played with all items, all relics, and all rare affixes ...

[nemhauser]

i still think its nothing special

it is not the same class as recharge, defensive ability, attack speed, avoid/dodge...


120%.. so it would make 220%.. still 80% below limit.. and even maxed casting speed won't make you an uber killer or uber tough or uber-anything

[Viper_Sweden]

I voted "Do not change" for one simple reason:

The Drop Rate

You have to kill thousands and thousands of Anourans to get one pair. In order to get one with one really good affix you will probably have to find two or three pairs, meaning loads of dead frogs. If you're going for a two-affix awesome pair, the amount of dead frogs go into the millions...

[Poinas]

Many players don't care for drop rates..they trade, dupe, make an item map etc. to get them.

It's quite easy to make your own map and make all monsters there spawn Batrachos Greaves with godly affix and prefix all the time. Someone goes out to do that, and then starts duping, a day later everyone is using them in online games.

[Joostevens]

I use them sometimes for some fun or experimental builds, but i don't use them at all for my regular characters i play through the game with. (I only ever found one anyway) They are overpowered and because im pretty sure the devs didn't mean to add some much DA on one item i leave them alone.

[I_Raps]

Originally Posted by Poinas

Many players don't care for drop rates..they trade, dupe, make an item map etc. to get them.

It's quite easy to make your own map and make all monsters there spawn Batrachos Greaves with godly affix and prefix all the time. Someone goes out to do that, and then starts duping, a day later everyone is using them in online games.

Absolutely true. Which leads to another and more important point. If you are going to make a "Balance Patch" which many people will use in multiplayer, NERF the ****ed "Chris Items" and so forth in the Sandbox - these are much more a problem than Batrachos Greaves.

[Kupferstecher]

But if we start on the topic of cheating: Will those people even bother to install a balancing patch? I think the patch should be done with the legit player in mind.

[I_Raps]

If a legit player right now hosts a game, he can't keep cheaters off because the Chris Items (and Homados and BSG for that matter) are in everyone's database. I think non-cheating would be a major "selling point" for any new balance patch.

People who want to cheat in single-play can always modify their own db and give themselves anything they want.

[Kupferstecher]

I have no problem with changing imbalanced items, I just wanted to say that "People will dupe, so rarity of items is not to be considered" wouldn't be the point of view I'd like to see from the patch programmers.