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Old 03-31-2008, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: Bugs and fixes for unofficial patch

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Originally Posted by dawe1313 View Post
using TQVault 2.15 Beta 4, i can see this with the completion bonuses:

Epic Herakles Might - Offensive_+%Damage_03:

15 Damage
+27% Damage

Legendary Herakles Might - Offensive_+%Damage_04:

+25% Damage

so there is why epic is better than legendary

Strength % Bonus: all three have Character_%Strength_01 for an across the board +5% Strength


Also found:

Normal Herakles Might -
Offensive_ReducedAttackSpeed_01: 33% Slower Attack For 3.0 Secs
Offensive_ReducedAttackSpeed_02: 50% Slower Attack For 3.0 Secs

Epic Herakles Might -
Offensive_ReducedAttackSpeed_02: 50% Slower Attack For 3.0 Secs
Offensive_ReducedAttackSpeed_03: 66% Slower Attack For 3.0 Secs

Legendary Herakles Might -
Offensive_ReducedAttackSpeed_03: 66% Slower Attack For 3.0 Secs

it looks like this is intentional.

all of the other completion bonuses seem to be a normal progression of good(N)-better(E)-best(L).
the difference between N->E is usually a larger increase than E->L

The problem with the Herakles Relics is a subtle one. What you see in TQVault is accurate but not precise, if you know what I mean.

Here is a look at the Epic and Legendary versions side be side:



You can see that the Epic relic uses the Offensive_+%Damage_03 from the Suffix\Default folder, while the Legendary uses Offensive_+%Damage_04 from the Relics\Bonuses folder (which is inferior to the Suffix\Default version). The solution is to set them to use the mods from the same folder.

The trouble then lies in which folder to use - the Suffix\Default versions or the inferior Relics\Bonuses version. As you can see from the rest of the lists, both folders are accessed for other bonuses, so it's is simply a matter of taste which to use. The Normal relic uses the Relics\Bonus version - but it also uses "_01" instead of "_02" so a strict progression is not indicated in any case.

Do you weaken the Epic Relic or strengthen the Legendary Relic?

For my part, I strengthened the Legendary version (I have posted a link on the Forum somewhere for people to download a TQVault with some of the "corrected" Legendary Relics some time back).
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